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Old 05-01-2018, 06:29 AM   #21
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But I do question the wisdom of giving beginners finicky setups, rather than forgiving setups.
I might actually question the wisdom of giving a beginner an overly forgiving setup. As you say, an experienced player can readily adapt to various bags/set ups ... one gains that experience from working with a variety of setups, and learning how to handle them. If the set up they start on takes nearly no effort to operate, then they haven't learned how to employ such effort .. thus, they aren't gaining very much experience. It's for the same reason that kids are taught to do simple arithmetic by hand and on paper, before they're given a calculator.

However, there is of course a fine line between giving a beginner something that takes a little effort to get used to, and something that's so difficult, that it's discouraging.

In the case of my friend's son, he has an excellent instructor who will be there to guide and encourage him. So did I when I was his age ... my first bag was one of the earliest Canmore Goretex bags, and it was quite an experience learning how to strike those things in, and do a clean cut off. I also had all cane reeds, which was a struggle in itself.

That's the point though, I learned; and that experience did wonders in making me more adaptable as a player.

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Old 05-01-2018, 06:31 AM   #22
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For sure, I believe the strike-in issue is usually a calibration issue more than anything- your reeds will react a bit differently with a MCS cup/insert/hose setup than with no MCS hooked up.
Very good point.
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Old 05-01-2018, 06:21 PM   #23
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I also started with all cane drone reeds and an Apps (HARD!) chanter reed that I blew and blew with my corked drones until it either softened or I hardened..LOL.

The cane sound I loved. No doubt. My instructors also the first time I played--"ahh that cane sound..wow..." as this was the time when Mark Wygents reeds had come out and they had all converted.

When I went to synthetic I'll never forget how excited I was, and yet the change was dramatic with the sound they made to my ears. But the ease of use was also dramatic as compared to stealing hairs from my wife's brush and then the constant adjusting I did the older they got.

Darn I miss my cane reeds now. What were we talking about?
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Old 05-04-2018, 09:28 PM   #24
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I might actually question the wisdom of giving a beginner an overly forgiving setup.
Aye, you're right, just give that overly-forgiving setup to me
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Old 05-13-2018, 03:57 PM   #25
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Someone mentioned their experience here with having no problems with sheepskin and then the move to a hybrid or Goretex as being different. That's EXACTLY what I'm finding as a renewed piper. My L and M bags--never an issue. Very soft, very easy strike and stop. The Canmore Hybrid is totally different to me. Not anywhere close yet to what I need to be on the strike in. Hopefully something will click.
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