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Old 10-27-2008, 09:58 AM   #21
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While I agree that there were very deep differencies between Lowland families and Highland clans one shouldn't overlook or disregard the similaires. The Douglas's were of Celtic orgin,as was Galloway for a long period of history. Robert Bruce spoke Gaelic ( abet from his mother's side.) The famlies feuded just as much if not more than their Highland compatriots. The Monarchie treated them in the same manner. i.e. Johnny Armstrong taken in treachery and hanged.
I agree there were similiarities, but enough to bridge the gap between the two. And, certainly not enough to prevent the prejudicism and contempt that existed between the two cultures. Though there are examples of Norman/Anglo families becoming Gaelic, this was not the norm. If you look at the historical documents from that period, even from the rulers and ruling class, there was a HUGE seperation between the two cultures.
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Old 10-27-2008, 12:31 PM   #22
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For an interesting look at how the families/clans of the Borders (both English and Scottish) lived and behaved, read George MacDonald Fraser's book, The Steel Bonnets. It makes the Wild West look like a theme park.
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Old 10-28-2008, 02:08 PM   #23
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How about now? What's the current state of Highland / Lowland relations - benign neglect? mutual disinterest? kissing cousins?
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Old 10-28-2008, 02:12 PM   #24
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Highland and lowland, Campbell and MacDonald, all the auld feuds are gone now, thank Bog, and the population is sufficiently intermarried that it's referred to as The Scottish Nation now.
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Old 10-28-2008, 02:23 PM   #25
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For an interesting look at how the families/clans of the Borders (both English and Scottish) lived and behaved, read George MacDonald Fraser's book, The Steel Bonnets. It makes the Wild West look like a theme park.
I must acquire it then to find out more about my ancestors. We live happily together these days, with the Lallanders moaning about all that Gaelic TV, and the Hielanders thinking we're all English south of Inverness. Just joking. We're one big happy family. Look, the Campbell is dancing wi' a MacDonald.

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Old 10-28-2008, 02:28 PM   #26
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There has been quite a significant demographic shift, too. The population of the Highlands is a fraction of what it was back in the day, and many parts are largely or wholly inhabited by people from South of the Border who like the idea of an unspoiled and rugged countryside with a hint of ethnic difference thrown in. But for them, many parts would be deserted. Where you heard Gaelic forty years ago, now there is none, except in several remote outposts.
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