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Old 10-08-2012, 09:27 AM   #1
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Default Need Recommendation: Chanter for 96 Hardie Pipes

I have started training to go into solo competition next year.

I have a 1996 Stand of ABW Hardie pipes, with ABW Hardie Chanter.

Given that the higher pitch in tuning since then, I need to find a newer chanter, just not sure which chanter to go with and more importantly, which will pair best with my drones.

Does anyone else play Hardie pipes who may play the same year, or simply have any thoughts, both on that particular year and make of pipes and on a chanter to best suite those drones?

Thank you in advance for your thoughts!

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Old 10-08-2012, 09:32 AM   #2
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Default Re: Need Recommendation: Chanter for 96 Hardie Pipes

What pitch is the Hardie at? Assuming that is your only concern, I would think a 15 year old chanter will still be pretty close to today's pitch.

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Old 10-08-2012, 09:36 AM   #3
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Default Re: Need Recommendation: Chanter for 96 Hardie Pipes

Unfortunately, I do not know.

I was told that the chanter is flat.
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:48 AM   #4
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Compared to what? How do you like the sound it produces? Play what you like for solos, IMHO. I would think anything that would pitch up into the mid 470s would be fine. Personally, i would try some different reeds in the old chanter before I shelled out big cash for a new dog whistle.

Anyway, sorry to second guess you. I like Naill chanters, and McCallum makes good stuff too. (McC2) No idea how they would do with your Hardie drones.

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Old 10-08-2012, 09:51 AM   #5
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Please excuse my ignorance; how would I find out waht pitch my chanter is at?

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Old 10-08-2012, 10:05 AM   #6
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Default Re: Need Recommendation: Chanter for 96 Hardie Pipes

Just blow a low A into a tuning meter, that should get you in the ballpark. Murray Blair's tuner app for IPhone works well for $10.

Again, sorry to side track you!

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Old 10-08-2012, 10:46 AM   #7
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Default Re: Need Recommendation: Chanter for 96 Hardie Pipes

Hardies chanters from that era are at 1970s pitch. Hang on to it, because it'll be useful if you ever want to play at 466, but definitely no good for solos.

Choise doesn't matter too much at this stage. As I pointed out on another contentious thread, no matter what you but your opinions will change in the future as you improve. Buy a respected maker that is known for accepting a variety of reeds. And don't worry about pairing up tone: load of nonsense. Get them in tune and you'll be out in front of most of the field.
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:32 AM   #8
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Default Re: Need Recommendation: Chanter for 96 Hardie Pipes

Yes, indeed Matt, it seems that Calum II is correct, it is in the area if not exactly 466.

Tuning is exactly my concern...which is why I wanted to see what others recommended when pairing a chanter with my drones because I will have no one to hide behind when playing solo.
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:44 AM   #9
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Default Re: Need Recommendation: Chanter for 96 Hardie Pipes

Forgot to mention, I am currently using Shepard SM 90s in my drones, which are designed to operated at 476.

I am using a Souter Chanter reed.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:20 PM   #10
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Default Re: Need Recommendation: Chanter for 96 Hardie Pipes

There's absolutely no reason not to use it in competition...it's done quite frequently. However, if you are looking for a new chanter, I would recommend the McCallum McC2 solo chanter, the Naill solo chanter or the Peter Henderson solo chanter. There are many others that you may like, so look and listen as much as you can. If you go on YouTube and search for Willie McCallum you will find many videos with him playing his McC2 solo chanter. Alastair and Margaret Dunn play a duet on the Peter Henderson solo chanters, also available on YouTube.

Personally, I use the McC2 and PH ABW solo chanters and love them both. Also, I use Kinnaird drone reeds.
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