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Old 02-12-2013, 11:00 AM   #1
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Default Where I won't be playing on St. Patrick's Day

Happened again! After being mostly ignored all year at my local watering hole, got messaged to ask if I would play the pipes on St. Patrick's Day again this year. Seems I'm popular only one day a year. I imagine they want to know now, so they can advertise it. Never got a thank you, let alone a free beer last year. Had to pay like everyone else. I have made othe plans for my favorite holiday.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:10 AM   #2
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No pay - no play. That's why my St Patrick's Day gigs are few and far between. Sad, but most establishments would rather hire a piper who only plays Scottish tunes, rather than someone with a good Irish repertoire. Search 'St Patrick's Day bagpipes' on YouTube and you'll quickly learn the most popular tune being played is Scotland the Brave.

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Old 02-12-2013, 11:14 AM   #3
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I've seen some shocked bar owners when they hear I want more than $50 to play for an hour straight...
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:35 AM   #4
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Default Re: Where I won't be playing on St. Patrick's Day

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Originally Posted by Texas Gael View Post
No pay - no play.
That's my take on it too, Wes. It's a long day, and playing around the average patrons of bars on St. Patrick's day can get pretty frustrating. It takes more than a free beer to get me to agree to it...

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Old 02-12-2013, 11:48 AM   #5
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I get a few calls from pubs about playing. They are always willing to thrown in cash, drinks and food. I turn them down and pass these on to other pipers. I do however do a few freebies for 2 pubs that I hang out in and my parish St Patrick's day dinner.
If there is no pay or food and drink consideration then I reccomend saying no.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:48 PM   #6
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Greetings, Longwind, & Everybody Else in God's Westen World,


Here's the deal... St. Patrick's Day... or any other...
(And, it is the only deal of which I have ever heard.)
(It is also the circumstance under which I ever play.)

1. The payment:
So much money per person; what ever has been agreed
upon for the performance(s)... or the day.

2. The payment is the same for all pipers and drummers
alike... period. ...There are no exceptions... ever.

3. It is understood that part of the payment, above and
beyond what ever mere money is involved, is to include
all food and drink... period. No exceptions here, either.


Anything else... or other... than these simple to understand
conditions... begins to border upon bad manners, bad form,
for whomever is wishing to engage me, or you, or us. (It also
begins to border upon bad judgement on their part, as well.)

Please do note: We wear uniforms... we do not wear livery.

If I may quote from a text much-cited in this part of the world:
"The laborer is worthy of his hire."

Let us all go out, play well, and have a roarin' grand time of it!

(As GrandPapa said; "If yer goin' to be broke... be broke rested!
...Don''t be broke... tired." :)

Regards to All,

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Old 02-15-2013, 07:05 AM   #7
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"Hey (bar owner) I really appreciate your call and invitation to play on St Patrick's day. Here's what I'll do. I play for 45 minutes an hour with a 15 minute break in between and I'll do that for a total of 3 hours for __________ dollars. You can hold the date with a $50.00 deposit. I will then send you a copy of my invoice reflecting your deposit. In most of our 50 states if not all an invoice with consideration (deposit) is considered a contractual agreement between said parities. Does that work for you?"

If he says no, don't waste your time. Just my humble opinion.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:06 AM   #8
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It took a couple of years to establish our reputation and clientele, and now everything works swimmingly well!

We provide a mini-band group of 5 to 7 pipers, a couple of drummers, and sometimes a dancer or two. We march in playing, do our fast-paced entertaining show, and march out playing. 15 minutes, $200. Period. No negotiating, and no bartering for food/drinks. In addition, we sell t-shirts and CDs, and any tips go to the performers.

We have four teams roaming the town, and we stay within 5 minutes of our scheduled appearance (which is established two weeks or so before so they can advertise appropriately). The bars and restaurants fall all over themselves to hire us. We get calls in December to get on "the list."

Keeping in mind that we are still a month away from the festivities, we already have 37 gigs lined up. It’s going to be a hectic weekend, for sure, but loads of fun. And quite profitable for our band treasury!
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:11 AM   #9
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Love your thinking, Gary! I'll have to type some cards like that up. Thanks.
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:35 AM   #10
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I think the thought of piping in taverns on St. Patrick's day is horrid. I just think that in your average N.A. "ye oldy Oirish Pub" you're really just going to be set dressing for the local Guinness/Diageo distributor to get 20somethings (green Braveheart make-up?) slashed on keg beer while making a general toss-off out of our Irish customs, culture and faiths (striped Leprechaun hats?).

Witness the number of the pubs that will have some clueless dude in a Royal Stewart Kilt and a Guinness supplied golf shirt banging out STB and other Caledonian hits on his "ancient Irish-Keltic bagpypes".

Around my local, the ex-pats (green and orange) will be having none of that.

The pub is just not a good venue for GHB (loud) piping. Pubs on the Saint's day are for lunch after church (regardless of what tradition you come from) with your family and some hearty sessions into the evening with trad. players (and those other "ancient Keltick" lap pipes. )

Every year the hooliganistic vibe of these corporate fueled pish-ups gets deeper under my bonnet/craw/spine.
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