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Old 04-02-2019, 11:47 AM   #1
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Default Which book(s) would it be?

Looking for good collections of pipe music so thought I'd ask,


what one or two pipe music collections would you consider a must have?
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Old 04-02-2019, 01:15 PM   #2
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Looking for good collections of pipe music so thought I'd ask,


what one or two pipe music collections would you consider a must have?
Man ... that's tough. Do you have any books currently?

Also, what styles are most what you like/want to play? Regimental? Traditional, solo competition? Contemporary & modern pipe band? Folk styles, like Cape Breton, or lowland piping? Piobaireachd?

Zeroing in on the above and letting us know your tastes would help.

Otherwise, I don't think it's unfair to consider the Scots Guards (3 volumes now) to be a good first set of books to have. Though many have said that the Seaforth book is a good first.

And let me emphasize ... FIRST. There are SOOOO many great collections out there, but it'll depend on your interests. If competing solo is a thing, for example, then I consider the Ross and Donald Macleod books to be a must-have.

I'd kicked off a similar discussion on behalf of students here: http://forums.bobdunsire.com/forums/...ght=pipe+books

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Old 04-02-2019, 04:01 PM   #3
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I enjoy the Donald MacLeod books.
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Old 04-02-2019, 07:03 PM   #4
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Default Re: Which book(s) would it be?

Yeah itís tough to say. Thereís so many good ones.

Scots guards are a good one if you can memorize quickly.

However many of the older books are quite good.

Loganís Tutor,Pipers Delight, Edcath Collection, William Rossís books. The list goes on.

What do you like to play? Want to learn? Newer? Older?


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Old 04-03-2019, 03:09 PM   #5
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I really enjoy the Donald Macleod books, Caber feidh Collection and the new(ish) Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders books among many others - but I'd say those are the ones I go to first for new tunes, or are most likely to have standard or competition tunes that I like.


It really depends on your own tastes and musical interests. If you prefer more folk-based playing, Alan MacDonald's books are must-haves.


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Old 04-03-2019, 03:40 PM   #6
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For a real treat, Allan Macdonalds Moidart collections has extreme gems.

http://www.allanmacdonald.com/music-...macdonald.html


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Old 04-03-2019, 06:23 PM   #7
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Nate, I was thinking in terms of which books, no matter what kind, did people think had the music they liked best. But of course, you're right, its good to narrow down. I have Scots Guard 1. But all the rest of my tunes are in notebook binders, from piobaireachds to light music., tunes I've added over the years from playing light music with others, to piobs, I'd learn one at a time.



Patrick, the MacLeod books are a great suggestion, I hadn't thought of those and I have heard a couple tunes from them. He really was a great composer I hadn't thought of.



DamhCabrachPiping, I hadn't thought in terms of new or old but your suggestions are now on my list. I was just wondering what books others really liked the tunes of.


Thank you Skyelark, also good suggestions now on my list.


Thanks very much thevoidboy for the link. i would never have thought of that collection, which looks like it'd be a great addition.
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Old 04-04-2019, 07:45 AM   #8
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Nate, I was thinking in terms of which books, no matter what kind, did people think had the music they liked best.
Yeah, I see what you mean. Though I do think it surprises many folks how broad and varied the piping repertoire can be, it certainly did me. And of course, many different folks like different sorts of music.

But again, I do follow your meaning. Personally, I feel that the books mentioned here would serve as a really solid foundation, though of course, there have been a great many cited.

Especially seeing as you have Scots Guards I already, I feel it would be really nice to have II and III. The third seems to incorporate a lot of tunes that were quite popular in the 90s and 00s, for example, "Clumsy Lover" and "At Long Last." Many of them were also seemingly hard to come by (i.e., published in books that are out of print).

Similar to the Scots Guards sort of music would be book series such as Donald MacLeod, and William Ross. The Queens Own Highlanders, Caber Feigh is great (though I do recommend the "Standard Settings" book if you can find one). And the newly released Argyle & Sutherland collection seems really nice as well. I still need to really dig into that last one.

I also really favor the Gordon Highlanders books ... the first is easily obtainable, the 2nd is not. If you see it, grab it. And as said, lots of folks seem to favor Seaforth's as a good first book.

Edcath (1-3) was mentioned, I LOVE these ... but they're out of print. Book 1 seems to pop up from time to time, but 2-3 far less often. Fortunately, many of the most popular tunes from those books have been released in other collections, or on sites like pipetunes.ca and bagpipemusic.com.

And on the other side of things, Allan MacDonalds Moidart Collection (1 & 2) is about as good as it gets. Comes with audio samples of nearly all tunes, and yeah, when it comes to more folk-esque tunes, these books are among my favorites.

Obviously, that's already a hefty bunch of tunes. So I say again, think a little about your interests, and let that be your guide ... unless you want them all (careful, it's addicting)!

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Old 04-04-2019, 08:00 AM   #9
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Oh I forgot ...

Edcath 1 is old enough where it can be legally posted on sites like ceolsean.net

https://ceolsean.net/content/Edcath/Edcath_TOC.html

Lots of old books such as this are up on ceolsean.net, so do check that out if you didn't know.

There's also an ebay outfit called Scotpress which prints and sells many of those older books ... (Edcath 1 is one of them ..https://www.ebay.com/itm/EDCATH-COLL...-/131502191259)

For Edcath, that's just book 1. mind you. Books 2 and 3 were published later, and they aren't old enough to reproduced in this fashion legally. Every once in a blue moon, I see one or the other pop up online. A fellow just last month had an Ebay listing that was both Edcath 2 and 3 ... sold for about $200. That's a lot of money, but I'm sure whoever won the auction was thrilled.

Cheers,
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Old 04-05-2019, 05:00 AM   #10
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It's been a few years since I was in, but Jeannie at Hugh Robertson still had new copies of Edcath 2&3. She isn't going to reprint book 1 because of it being available on the web.


The best approach to music books, I think, is to buy one every couple of months and build up a collection over time. Books these days don't stay in print long, so if it's available snaffle it. There are a few books I'm missing that I could easily have had ten or twenty years ago if I hadn't put off buying them because I wasn't in a rush.



Essentials, to my mind, would be most of the regimental collections, the Ross and MacLeod series, Seumas MacNeill, and the John MacFadyen books, and Angus MacDonald if you can get them.



For pipe band enthusiasts, the books by Mark Saul, Murray Blair, Terry Tully, Bill Livingstone, and Michael Grey.


For the pyrotechnic enthusiasts, Gordon Duncan's, Fred Morrison, and Allan MacDonald's.
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