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Old 07-17-2019, 11:36 PM   #1
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Default Grade 4 Piobaireachd tunes

Can anyone provide some input as to what constitutes a credible Grade 4 piobaireachd tune? Does it have to contain a taorluath or crunluath movement, or are tunes like "Duncan McCrae of Kintail's Lament" or "The Old Woman's Lullaby" suitable in a Grade 4 competition?
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Old 07-18-2019, 05:41 AM   #2
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Can anyone provide some input as to what constitutes a credible Grade 4 piobaireachd tune? Does it have to contain a taorluath or crunluath movement, or are tunes like "Duncan McCrae of Kintail's Lament" or "The Old Woman's Lullaby" suitable in a Grade 4 competition?
What are the rules of your piping association regarding Grade 4 piobaireachd?

You are in Yucca Valley, in San Bernardino County, California, United States. Your association would be The Western United States Pipe Band Association.

Their rules are: Grade 4 Piobaireachd Submit one (1) Piobaireachd and play the ground and the next numbered section.

The next numbered section would never contain crunluaths. It may contain taorluaths though. I would choose based on your strengths.

The tunes you mentioned, "Duncan MacRae of Kintail's Lament" and "The Old Woman's Lullaby", both seem to be accessible to a beginner. I would consult with your teacher about your tune selection though as he/she may recommend simple tunes well expressed with minimal technique as a criteria for a competition tune for a beginner.

As a starting point Jimmy McIntosh has published a list of suitable beginner-ish piobaireachds:

Title,Source,Page,Parts
Sir James MacDonald of the Isles’ Lament, The Kilberry Book Of Ceol Mor,8,4 ***
Munro’s Salute, The Piobaireachd Society Book 11,342,4

Lament for the Old Sword, The Kilberry Book Of Ceol Mor,74,5
Little Spree, The Kilberry Book Of Ceol Mor,36,5
Salute to Donald, The Kilberry Book Of Ceol Mor,10,5
Struan Robertson’s Salute, The Kilberry Book Of Ceol Mor,20,5

MacFarlane’s Gathering, The Kilberry Book Of Ceol Mor,22,6
Company’s Lament, The Piobaireachd Society Book 1,34,6
MacKintosh’s Banner, Tutor For Piobaireachd,103,6

Clan Campbell’s Gathering, The Kilberry Book Of Ceol Mor,12,7
Corrienessan’s Salute, The Kilberry Book Of Ceol Mor,4,7
Glengarry’s Lament, The Kilberry Book Of Ceol Mor,106,7
Lament for Captain McDougall, The Kilberry Book Of Ceol Mor,5,7
MacDonald Of Kinlochmoidart's Lament No. 1, The Kilberry Book Of Ceol Mor,15,7
Marquis of Argyll’s Salute, The Piobaireachd Society Book 10,278,7

Tulloch Ard, The Kilberry Book Of Ceol Mor,7,8
Lament for Alastair Deargh, The Piobaireachd Of Simon Fraser,98,8


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Old 07-18-2019, 03:25 PM   #3
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Given what Tom said we’re the constraints of the PBA, I would add:

1) The Pretty Dirk
2) Sister’s Lament
3) Birth of Rory Mor

Just a thought.
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Old 07-19-2019, 02:39 PM   #4
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I had good results with "Prince Charles' Lament". I played the arrangement found in Angus MacKay's book in 6/8 time rather than the PS arrangement in 4/4 time.


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Old 07-19-2019, 03:28 PM   #5
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Thanks guys! I love playing piobaireachd because it's melodic, and duncan kintails lament, as well as the Old Woman's Lullaby and a few others, have a great melody. I haven't been able to find the rules section of the WUSPBA anywhere on their website, but I'll look again.
I've got Jack Lee judging me in October, and I would rather play a simpler tune like Duncan Kintail and play it with expression, execution, and melody than try a more difficult tune for my first piobaireachd competition.
Thanks again!
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Old 07-20-2019, 04:13 AM   #6
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I haven't been able to find the rules section of the WUSPBA anywhere on their website

https://wuspba.org/wp-content/upload...3-18_final.pdf


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Old 07-23-2019, 09:40 AM   #7
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I've played Field of Gold (Donald MacDonald) in g4 in EUSPBA. We play the whole tune. But even in a ground only contest it's a decent tune because there are some spots of real fingerwork. It's a nice tune, too.
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