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Old 12-05-2018, 07:43 PM   #21
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You seem pretty determined to be right. Just cause you canít play more than 9 notes on the chanter doesnít mean you shouldnít bother playing certain tunes that go beyond that range. What about the low notes of Auld Lang Syne as it is sung? You go back up to the top hand to play them on the pipes and it doesnít make the tune sound lame.


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If you learn to "Pinch" a high B, you can actually play Auld Land Syne (and God Bless America and a lot of other tunes) properly.

While we're on that- one thing that drives other musicians totally bughouse is the way most of us play "Going Home" (Largo from Dvor‚k's New World Symphony) with G naturals instead of G#.
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:55 PM   #22
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While we're on that- one thing that drives other musicians totally bughouse is the way most of us play "Going Home" (Largo from Dvor‚k's New World Symphony) with G naturals instead of G#.
Dang it Bob(by)*, now that you say it, and I hear it in my head, Iíll never be able to play that tune without grimacing again!

*King of the Hill reference, sorry...
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:09 AM   #23
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Another one that's good to play at Irish funerals is Bonny Portmore, especially if you base your arrangement on Lorenna Mckennıt's version. It actually works on the highland pipe. Her recording is popular enough to be in the common lingo of the average Celtic music fan.
But, to the initial post, if you've been asked to play at an Irish funeral, you should be good with the highland pipes if you can play some Irish tunes. Many were listed here that will be good for a funeral.
There's a weird disconnect, primarily among North American pipers, that has a thinking that only Scots play the GHB and only Irish people play uilleann pipes. Nothing could be further from the truth, but make sure your Irish clients are okay with a highland pipe. If not, try to point them toward a uilleann piper.
One other thing I try to establish with my own piping students is an at least rudimentary to competent ability on the tin whistle, if for no other reason than that so many Irish American clients are going to request Danny Boy, When Irish Eyes Are Smiling, Toora Loora Loora, I'll Take You Home Again Kathleen, Kevin Barry, Slievenamon, The Foggy Dew, etc. that either don't work on the GHB, or will absolutely be butchered by the attempt. You can fudge a note here and there on the pipes, but not a whole phrase/part. I've found being able to augment a piping performance by playing a well known tune, and playing it well on the whistle, has gotten me a lot more gigs over the years than just sticking to rinky dink, forced pipe arrangements. People want good music, not arrangements locked into an admittedly limited instrument. You can't fit five kilos of poo into a two kilo diaper.
Some will argue with me, but Danny Boy Does Not Work On The Highland Bagpipe!!! My goto line every St Patrick's Day is, "If you hear me playing Danny Boy on the pipes, take my keys away, for I'm too drunk to drive safely."
Perhaps it's a subjective opinion, but the arrangements I've heard by self proclaimed bigwigs on the GHB are objectively lacking. There's not a single one I've heard that sounds any better than trying to make A Soldier's Song, The Star Spangled Banner, Oh, Canada, The 1812 Overture or Rhapsody In Blue fit a nine note instrument.
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Old 12-06-2018, 04:33 AM   #24
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Did you mean Oft in the Stilly Night? It's a great tune.

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Hi Kev .. never seen the music for it, Seems its a irish guards regimental tune ..


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Old 12-06-2018, 07:03 AM   #25
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being Irish and living in Ireland here is my 2 cents worth.

Just about the only tune there that you could use for a funeral is Samhradh Samhradh.

Most of the well known marches, Minsteral Boy,, let Eirn Remember, Dawning of the day, God save Ireland, a Nation once again, Twenty men, Step together, Eileen Aroune, Mountains of Pomery(sp?), Wrap the green flag, Roddy Mac, '98. Those kinds of tunes all work well.

Airs like the Green Glen's of Antrim, Paddy's green shamrock shore, The parting Glass.

I'd avoid Danny boy on the pipes. Despite some people forcing it, it's not really do'able.

See Liam Clancy's funeral on YouTube for how the parting glass goes.

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Hi Paul, when I was learning tunes for the London Scottish regiment, I also had to learn tunes for the London Irish regiment, as the two bands often played together. Most of the tunes you list were in the Irish repertoire, and Green Glen's of Antrim and The Parting Glass were definitely used as Irish slow airs. For the Queen Mother's funeral the Irish tune we learned was Oft In The Stilly Night, (see below) which I also thought went fairly well on the pipes. For other posters, please note the OP is from the UK, and "Danny Boy" just isn't heard on the GHB on this side of the Atlantic, though it does get played often on the uilleann pipes.

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Old 12-06-2018, 09:40 AM   #26
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For the Queen Mother's funeral the Irish tune we learned was Oft In The Stilly Night, (see below) which I also thought went fairly well on the pipes. For other posters, please note the OP is from the UK, and "Danny Boy" just isn't heard on the GHB on this side of the Atlantic, though it does get played often on the uilleann pipes.
Nice version here with brass band:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvjCMyrtE_o
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:52 AM   #27
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Greetings, pipermm, and to All,

First: Thank you Adam... as always... and this time for
your Post # 25.

Secondly: pipermm is asking for our help... our mutual
assistance... and please... in some timely fashion!... so
he might properly be prepared to play for this family. He
is not asking for multiple opinions... on what (to some)
can or can not be played...properly on the pipes...

So with everyone's forbearance... can we please get back
to the request... and the task at hand? (Oh, please...)

pipermm... I have played for scores (and scores) of Irish
funerals... and weddings... and wakes... and just general
parties... and it is easier than you might first suppose. And...
though these have all been on this side of The Great Water...
some forms hold true... where ever... one might be...

Since... you are in the U.K ... you might easily be able to
rent a saffron kilt (and silver buckles for your shoes). It is
a nice touch... but not entirely necessary... or required.

For easily recognized Irish pipe tunes and songs... for
those who shall be in attendance on the day... though
some tunes and songs were born in Canada and the U.S. ...
they are now rather world-wide in the public sphere... and
here are a few of my first choices...

* "Let Erin Remember"
* "The Wearing of the Green"
* "Kelly, the Boy From Killane"
* "The Minstrel Boy"
* " She Moved Through the Fair"

If military... a veteran.... or police or fire service:

* "A Soldier's Song"
* And the above: "Minstrel Boy"

And... you can jump onto YouTube.com and hear many
Irish pipers and military units playing specifically Irish pipe
tunes and songs... on the pipes. :)

Mainly... don't rush... You'll get through it right enough... :)

Regards,

Pip01


A Quick Post Script:

Ask the family if there are any particular hymns or songs
that they might wish.

Many are easily learned... by ear... if you have the time.

Wishing you... Good Fortune!!



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Old 12-06-2018, 10:33 AM   #28
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First: Thank you Adam... as always... and this time for
your Post # 25.

Secondly: pipermm is asking for our help... our mutual
assistance... and please... in some timely fashion!... so
he might properly be prepared to play for this family. He
is not asking for multiple opinions... on what (to some)
can or can not be played...properly on the pipes...

So with everyone's forbearance... can we please get back
to the request... and the task at hand? (Oh, please...)


Hi Pip01,

(S)He’s been given plenty of good advice prior to your post. We’re having a conversation here. Not out of the generosity of the OP, but because this is a forum...for communicating...and conversations that will go...where they will.

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Old 12-06-2018, 10:47 AM   #29
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https://www.yourirish.com/traditions...ial-traditions

Will give you an idea of the traditional Irish funeral. I've played for the Wake as well as the procession to graveside and at the grave. Unfortunately, none of the Irish funerals I've played for had Keening.

Cheers -

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Old 12-06-2018, 03:29 PM   #30
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I would sugget
- auld long syne and/or
- nearer my God to thee
Much Luck!
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