It's not a skirt, it's a KILT!!! - Page 2

piper Q · 10-20-2016, 06:18 PM

And does not the European Union refer to the Kilt as a Skirt?

Being in the deep south of the United States, where English is spoken with various degrees of clarity (or not) I've just grin & nod, make a mental note of those whose family tree are lacking branches and outside DNA. Then do what I need to do.

In the end the comments are becoming fodder for bad jokes about educational progress beyond 3rd grade. One person I've some contact with insists it is a skirt if undergarments are worn beneath the woolen garment of heavy weight and long yardage.

Regimental is an option but comfort comes first. So go ahead and call it a skirt if you must, yet you aren't man or lady enough to wear one properly. And wide pleats with viscose polyester doesn't mean it is a proper Kilt.

piper909 · 11-02-2016, 12:19 AM

To be fair, there's increasing confusion around this whole issue now that so many what we might call "faux kilts" for gents are popping up. Casual kilts, utility kilts, daywear kilts, lightweight kilts -- I see all these terms used in catalogs, along with plenty of non-tartan man-skirts called "kilts," and I see a lot of cheap, non-wool, lesser-yardage, lightly pleated tartan skirts rented out as "kilts" for weddings, etc. at one local "Celtic" emporium. Search for "man's kilt" on eBay and you'll be astounded at the things you'll see for sale labelled as such. (It's almost as bad as the faux bagpipes from Pakistan tricking the unwary musician wannabe.) Would any of these manifestations be accepted as appropriate Highland garb by judges in Scotland? If it's becoming more and more difficult to know what a man's kilt is, compared to ten or twenty years ago, how much harder is it when female garb is included?

Texas Gael · 11-03-2016, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by piper909

To be fair, there's increasing confusion around this whole issue now that so many what we might call "faux kilts" for gents are popping up.

Piped for a Reformation Sunday service last Sunday and was amazed/amused at the number of homemade kilts men were wearing, mostly made from blankets or table cloths. I was looking at one, trying to determine the tartan when I realized the hem was fringed!

cheers -

Wes

piper909 · 11-14-2016, 12:16 AM

At the Salado (Texas) Scottish festival this past weekend I saw the gamut of "kilts", worn with all manner of odd accountrements. The people most conforming to the old norms were the uniformed pipe bands and solo piping competitors. Then there was the gentleman wandering about in a MacLeod kilt worn backwards. Yes, pleats in the front, flat panel in the rear. Did ANYONE have the salt to tell him what he was doing wrong? (I try not to interfere with such things. Perhaps it was deliberate for some reason or another.)

el gaitero · 11-14-2016, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by piper909

Perhaps it was deliberate for some reason or another...

Maybe he was from planet Bizzarro?

acadianpiper · 11-27-2016, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Texas Gael

I was looking at one, trying to determine the tartan when I realized the hem was fringed!

I saw the same phenomenon on a "kilt" a fellow was wearing a couple of weeks ago. Maybe it's a new trend.

Pip01 · 12-04-2016, 09:35 AM

It has been my experience that the vast majority of
this mis-apprehension is neither contentious nor
is... socially barbed...

But... and on that very rare occasion when it is... and
such almost always comes from some poor sod who
has had... along with his companions... bit too much
drink... my most usual response runs something along
the lines of...

"Well, yes!! It probably would be... on you!!" :)

And there the matter usually ends... amid the guffaws of
his fellows... :)

10-20-2016, 06:18 PM	#11
piper Q Forum Silver Medal Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Currently Mississippi, who knows where next Posts: 336	Re: It's not a skirt, it's a KILT!!! And does not the European Union refer to the Kilt as a Skirt? Being in the deep south of the United States, where English is spoken with various degrees of clarity (or not) I've just grin & nod, make a mental note of those whose family tree are lacking branches and outside DNA. Then do what I need to do. In the end the comments are becoming fodder for bad jokes about educational progress beyond 3rd grade. One person I've some contact with insists it is a skirt if undergarments are worn beneath the woolen garment of heavy weight and long yardage. Regimental is an option but comfort comes first. So go ahead and call it a skirt if you must, yet you aren't man or lady enough to wear one properly. And wide pleats with viscose polyester doesn't mean it is a proper Kilt. __________________ Breaching the peace? What bagpipes officer?

11-02-2016, 12:19 AM	#12
piper909 Forum Silver Medal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 352	Re: It's not a skirt, it's a KILT!!! To be fair, there's increasing confusion around this whole issue now that so many what we might call "faux kilts" for gents are popping up. Casual kilts, utility kilts, daywear kilts, lightweight kilts -- I see all these terms used in catalogs, along with plenty of non-tartan man-skirts called "kilts," and I see a lot of cheap, non-wool, lesser-yardage, lightly pleated tartan skirts rented out as "kilts" for weddings, etc. at one local "Celtic" emporium. Search for "man's kilt" on eBay and you'll be astounded at the things you'll see for sale labelled as such. (It's almost as bad as the faux bagpipes from Pakistan tricking the unwary musician wannabe.) Would any of these manifestations be accepted as appropriate Highland garb by judges in Scotland? If it's becoming more and more difficult to know what a man's kilt is, compared to ten or twenty years ago, how much harder is it when female garb is included?

11-14-2016, 12:16 AM	#14
piper909 Forum Silver Medal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 352	Re: It's not a skirt, it's a KILT!!! At the Salado (Texas) Scottish festival this past weekend I saw the gamut of "kilts", worn with all manner of odd accountrements. The people most conforming to the old norms were the uniformed pipe bands and solo piping competitors. Then there was the gentleman wandering about in a MacLeod kilt worn backwards. Yes, pleats in the front, flat panel in the rear. Did ANYONE have the salt to tell him what he was doing wrong? (I try not to interfere with such things. Perhaps it was deliberate for some reason or another.)

12-04-2016, 09:35 AM	#17
Pip01 Holy smoking keyboard! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North America Posts: 3,012	Re: It's not a skirt, it's a KILT!!! It has been my experience that the vast majority of this mis-apprehension is neither contentious nor is... socially barbed... But... and on that very rare occasion when it is... and such almost always comes from some poor sod who has had... along with his companions... bit too much drink... my most usual response runs something along the lines of... "Well, yes!! It probably would be... on you!!" :) And there the matter usually ends... amid the guffaws of his fellows... :) __________________ My friends all know, With what a brave carouse...