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Old 10-14-2017, 06:51 PM   #1
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Default Thread for late-comers to piping?

Can someone tell me if there is a thread on here for individuals who have come to piping later in life, say in their 40s or 50s?
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Old 10-15-2017, 09:22 PM   #2
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I don't know if there is a single thread, but there is a lot of discussion on that topic.

I started playing at 39, now over 22 years ago.

What you get out of it depends largely on what you put into it. I have been rewarded many times over in ways I would've never expected. I have met MANY wonderful people, been a lot of cool places, and made a lot of great music over that period of time. You will probably not ever play in the Open, or in a Grade 1 band starting out late, but you can play competitively in both solos and bands if you work at it.

And if all you want to do is play Amazing Grace over your grandmother's grave, there's room at the table for that too. Just do it well.

Go for it.

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Old 10-16-2017, 05:10 AM   #3
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I am 62 and learning the pipes over the last few years.
I agree that older students have different as well as the same problems and questions of younger students.
I would like to see a section for older students too.
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Old 10-16-2017, 05:58 AM   #4
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There are a lot of threads on adult beginners.

I started at 39 (11 years ago) and made a blog-style thread to document the process:

http://forums.bobdunsire.com/forums/...ad.php?t=64751
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:08 AM   #5
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I am re-starting piping at age 67 after 15 years of not playing. First lesson is tonight.

Go for it and put in the time - you won't be disappointed.
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:38 AM   #6
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Just my two cents here ... I don't believe there is a separate thread or discussion that's geared specifically for older learners. In my thinking, there shouldn't be.

Granted, folks who are older need to put in a but more work and dedication into piping in order to enjoy the same results as a 12 year old. Just the way it goes.

However, this does not and should not prevent any given learner from reaching any particular level or state. Frankly, and more precisely, it's EASY for kids ... and by that rationale, it's less easy for adults (not easier for kids and impossible for adults).

Due to this misconception, there can be a tendency for adult learners to assume they're doomed to never ascend in their playing. Also, and far more troubling, I sometimes see "ageism" exhibited from more experienced players. These conditions together does nothing more than discourage the efforts of good people who are just trying to learn their craft the best they can.

My whole point to the above is this ... a piper is a piper, and a learner is a learner. Age is really not a factor, except that some methods and techniques may come easier for young whipper-snappers. As we get older, things don't come as easily and we need to work at it more ... so work at it more.

This forum is a grand resource .. so ask away, learn away, and don't let ANYONE make you feel like you should be part of an age-specific class.

Happy piping, and cheers to you.
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Old 10-17-2017, 11:14 AM   #7
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Greetings to MichaelR.S., and to All,

In both my experience... and my observation... there just
ain't no... "too old." (Sorry: it just won't do...for a reason. :)

I've known a couple of fellows... who didn't begin... until
their late 60s... and that... was some years ago... and
damned if they still ain't... on parade...and doing just fine!!
(And thank you very much!! :)

And yes... there is a matter of... needed adaptation... but
such is certainly... and equally true... for... and of... us all... :)

What is a (if the the) constant quality... and attribute... ever
needed to slog up The Piping Hill... is the desire... to strive...
and to attain... the sound... and the joy... and the magic of it
all... and quite irrespective of (and for all of us)... those first
painfully slow... and seemingly lead-footed... first steps... up
the Piping Hill. (And especially... for those just.. "back in." :)

Encouragement!!... both from without... and within... and Good
Counsel... are both... the proper fuel... for the journey.

And in that wise... bob864's blog... the link being given above...
his Post # 4... is a grand read... and I recommend it to all here!!
(And... Thank You!!... and very much...bob864!! :)

Regards... and Good Fortune... to All,

Pip01


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Old 10-17-2017, 11:36 AM   #8
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Age is really not a factor, except that some methods and techniques may come easier for young whipper-snappers.
I agree with much of this, but just to add: adults in many ways are better learners than kids - more thoughtful, more organised, and they are clearer about their goals. The only thing you typically don't see with adults is the mad drive that kids typically get for a few years in their teens where they spend huge amounts of time both practicing and absorbing the culture. Indeed adults generally can't do this. But if they had the time and inclination, I am pretty sure most well taught adult learners would reach the same level.
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Old 10-17-2017, 11:37 AM   #9
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I agree with much of this, but just to add: adults in many ways are better learners than kids - more thoughtful, more organised, and they are clearer about their goals. The only thing you typically don't see with adults is the mad drive that kids typically get for a few years in their teens where they spend huge amounts of time both practicing and absorbing the culture. Indeed adults generally can't do this. But if they had the time and inclination, I am pretty sure most well taught adult learners would reach the same level.
Couldn't agree more. Good man.
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:37 PM   #10
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The difference between kids and adults, which happens roughly at age 20, is the brain changes. It's a physiological change that happens to everyone. There is some coating on the brain cells in the young brain that makes rewiring faster.

So given X hours, the kid is capable of learning a lot more new skills in the given time.

The adult can eventually learn whatever skill s/he wants -- it just takes longer than the kids.
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