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Old 01-27-2017, 12:47 PM   #11
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Default Re: birls on the pc vs pipe chanter

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But the hands are in different positions with the wrists rotated at different angles, so it really won't ever be the same.

My teacher recommends practicing on the pipes as much as possible. I always start playing tunes on pipes asap -- well before having them memorized.
Yes, chanter position has a good bit to do with this...
the position is vertical (almost) for the pipe chanter,
but a very different angle for the practice chanter.

Electronic PC's, held vertically, solve some of this --
there are other options -- but playing the full pipes,
or a goose with a PC adapter can put your hands and
arms in the needed positions.
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Old 01-27-2017, 12:51 PM   #12
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Default Re: Birls on the PC vs. pipe chanter

Sometimes people just overthink these things,
Take the Nike approach!!!!!!!!

Just Do It

Against stupidity, the Gods themselves contend in vain.
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Old 01-27-2017, 11:21 PM   #13
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Default Re: Birls on the PC vs. pipe chanter

The position of the hands and the size of the hole both play a role (some people put a bit of tape across the bottom of low A to facilitate the birl). It is also because when we are on the pipes we are immediately distracted by other things, such as controlling the blowing, listening to the drones, listening to how the chanter sounds against the drones. There are things I can do very well on a true, resonant and easy chanter reed, with the drones corked, by myself in my practice area. And I would utterly fail to do the same things under less ideal conditions before a crowd at the pub. The birl is just one of many things that suddenly comes at you when everything is happening at the same time.

Get one of those mute thing (or not), and try practicing with the drones corked, and then bring the drones in one at a time. See if that helps.

However you do it, in the end, it's just a lot of practicing.
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:04 AM   #14
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Default Re: Birls on the PC vs. pipe chanter

I used to love watching the piping centre tutors demonstrate birls and their way of executing them. The 7 version, and the tapping version. Some said you'd never get them fast enough if you used the tapping method, then somebody would do just that at lightening speed. I've just remembered I once wrote a Birling Duet so that on every beat either one of the players was playing a birl. So it should be a case of non stop birling throughout the tune. If anybody has equipment to record themselves playing two parts, I'll send you the music (if I can remember what I called it) for a bit of fun.
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Old 02-06-2017, 04:00 PM   #15
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I'll send you the music (if I can remember what I called it) for a bit of fun. :roflmao:


'Twas birling... in the slipsie tones...

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