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Old 06-04-2019, 10:55 AM   #1
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Default Suspicious/dubious set posted online?

Wondering folks' thoughts on this set that's posted on FB at the moment ... asking price is £5,000.

Posting some images in case people here aren't members of the group.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/9184...11335148909194

"silver mounted african blackwood bagpipes

Glasgow
Set of full silver mounted african blackwood bagpipes pipes for sale. Recently restored by RG Hardy of glasgow. £5000
Call -----"


Seller refers to them as Henderson in the comments.

A fellow from Hardie has commented, saying they know nothing about this set, and that no one in their shop recalls working on them, or identifying them as Henderson pipes.

Personally, I'm rather skeptical.














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Old 06-05-2019, 07:33 AM   #2
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Strange that the chanter sole has different engraving on the top than on the bottom.
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Old 06-05-2019, 07:39 AM   #3
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Strange that the chanter sole has different engraving on the top than on the bottom.
Actually, I don't believe we're seeing the bottom of the sole ... there's only a view of the top. I believe the other is a drone cap?

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Old 06-05-2019, 08:21 AM   #4
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Actually, I don't believe we're seeing the bottom of the sole ... there's only a view of the top. I believe the other is a drone cap?

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The ‘hallmark’ on topside of the sole implies it is by the London assay office. I did a quick search to find the year for letter i but didn’t find it. Maybe you will? The hallmark overall seems a bit scruffy /unclear.
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Old 06-05-2019, 08:29 AM   #5
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Lovely Pakistani drones...bet they are wonderfully stable and easy to reed!...with a hand applied lacquer paint finish.
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Maybe it's just me, but I'm always suspicious when folks list bagpipes as "RG Hardy" or "MacCallum". Misspelled firm names can be a sign that somethings not right.

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Old 06-05-2019, 08:59 AM   #7
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These were posted on Reddit a couple of weeks ago.



https://www.reddit.com/r/bagpipes/co...f_my_grandads/


https://www.reddit.com/r/bagpipes/co..._thought_were/


Something doesn't fit.
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:05 AM   #8
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Yeah, and what's with what looks like thick paint on the wood?

Here're a couple follow up images posted by the seller.

I called him out online, saying that plenty of people are questioning details regarding the set, and (at best) sounds like this fellow is confused as to what he has, and what the value might be. I politely suggested he do some research, and that he consider taking the post down as he figures it out.

His response:

"Hi everyone, I'll post up photos following this. All the silver on the pipes have the same design and nothing has been replaced since my great grand father bought them from a Gordon highlander when he was 16, as of the refurbishment my wording might have been wrong the silver was repolished along with re-hemping and glueing of metal work (I have receipts to prove so). As of labelling them Henderson that may be a mistake as I am selling them for my grandfather and he has said they were registered as Henderson in Glasgow when he was playing them. I had been in touch with someone through a piping museum in Glasgow who have said they are Henry starck design (I'll email him for permission to use his name) I may have wrongly made the link to henderson because of the comment from my grandad and a mark on the chanter that said Henderson although faded which is in a photo ill post following. Everything is in good condition the pipes are copper lined on the inside, anyone interested can contact the number I've posted or on Facebook(which will be a slower reply). If there is any issues ill gladly remove the post"

The following photos are what he put up afterward, which of course, are not much of an improvement.



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Old 06-06-2019, 05:37 AM   #9
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I think he wises up and removed the sale.

Possible its a non- piper who doesnt know what he’s doing. But still, doesnt mean someone else should get ripped off.

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Actually, I don't believe we're seeing the bottom of the sole ... there's only a view of the top. I believe the other is a drone cap?

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Ahh, yup. I didn't look closely enough at the whole picture. The flat bush threw me off.
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