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Old 06-27-2019, 02:45 AM   #11
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Any idea what wood the ringcaps are made out of? I’m guessing they replaced some old nasty casein.
That the 40s 50s stuff that crumbles like crazy?
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Old 06-27-2019, 03:55 AM   #12
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Hi all, thanks for your comments/ideas etc.

Yes, the tops are new, made in mopani, and likely replaced some bad casein.

I have just received the pipes and still need to experiment with setup.
But they sound spetacular with a set of full standard ezeedrone reeds.

I have a strong feeling these are cocus wood, but could also be another sort of hardwood.

They have less bass and volume than my ebony Hendersons which also is an outstanding set of horns.
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Old 06-27-2019, 07:53 AM   #13
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Hard to tell from the limited pics, but I would say Søren's set certainly is not Brazilwood. I've only ever had a couple of Brazilwood sets of any kind. African blackwood can have a slight reddish tinge too. Sometimes it's hard to tell the wood until the pipes are stripped. I only had one cocuswood Robertson set, but it was brilliant.

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Old 06-27-2019, 08:43 AM   #14
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Thanks Jim.

They might be blackwood then, but here are two close up of the bass drone top.

https://ibb.co/FwbpdS9
https://ibb.co/vHcC4hQ
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Old 06-29-2019, 08:12 PM   #15
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Thanks Jim.

They might be blackwood then, but here are two close up of the bass drone top.

https://ibb.co/FwbpdS9
https://ibb.co/vHcC4hQ
These pipes are not African Blackwood. The grain, pore structure, and color that can be seen on the bass top picture does not even slightly resemble ABW. This is just for your information for future reference.





Pppiper, the set you pictured with the red stocks, the stocks are Brazilwood beyond the shadow of a doubt.

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Quick followup on my last.

The same (I believe) set is exhibited on Ringo Bowen's site ... in fact, he references Jim's site:
http://www.thebagpipemuseum.com/Robertson_2.html

I've linked a full shot of the set on that page below. According to Ringo, the red stocks are from the 60s, the silverwork from 1938, and the drones themselves are from earlier, though he doesn't specify further.

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Old 07-01-2019, 01:07 AM   #16
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[QUOTE=Keith Jeffers;1338459]These pipes are not African Blackwood. The grain, pore structure, and color that can be seen on the bass top picture does not even slightly resemble ABW. This is just for your information for future reference.

Thanks Keith, what do you think it is then? Any ideas?
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Old 07-01-2019, 05:34 AM   #17
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For what it's worth, I agree %100 with Kieth. I've worked on five or six Robertson pipes, mostly those from the 1950's, and they all have been made of that wood. But I have no idea what it is. When I first encountered it, it didn't look very promising, but in practice, while not as nice to turn as ABW, it takes pretty good detail and the pipes themselves live up to the Robertson reputation. Just another two pence.
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Thanks Jay.

I have made a recording and I can provide it to those who are interested, just send me a PM.
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When I first encountered it, it didn't look very promising, but in practice, while not as nice to turn as ABW,

Sorry Jay, Im confused. What are you referring to here? i.e., (what) didnt look promising ... (what) was not as nice to turn?
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These pipes are not African Blackwood. The grain, pore structure, and color that can be seen on the bass top picture does not even slightly resemble ABW. This is just for your information for future reference.

Thanks Keith, what do you think it is then? Any ideas?

Søren, the wood in the bass top pictures bears a striking resemblance to a wood called Thinwin as a trade name. I have turned this wood before and found it to be exactly as you have pictured here.

Pppiper, I believe Jay is referring to Brazilwood. I trust Jay’s judgement. He is a true renaissance man and wood turner.
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