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Old 11-05-2017, 02:48 PM   #11
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OK, I took some pics and learned a little about Google Photos.

On further looking, it seems that I probably don't want fully buffed and new-shiny ferules. I am beginning to think that clean, polished, but not-new-looking is what I need.

Here goes:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/4a2Yrz0fjGC957j73

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Old 11-05-2017, 03:19 PM   #12
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Thanks,

I have Everbrite arriving in the mail tomorrow. So, it seems a simple polishing followed by sealing will work.

Given that the casein is cracking, the mounts will need replacing in the not-too-distant future. I keep being drawn to palm nut as a possibility for this. The only problem is that I love playing these pipes so much, it'll be tough to part with them for the duration of restoration.

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Old 11-05-2017, 03:34 PM   #13
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Thanks,

I have Everbrite arriving in the mail tomorrow. So, it seems a simple polishing followed by sealing will work.

Given that the casein is cracking, the mounts will need replacing in the not-too-distant future. I keep being drawn to palm nut as a possibility for this. The only problem is that I love playing these pipes so much, it'll be tough to part with them for the duration of restoration.

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Who will do the job?...who had the palm nut?
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:23 PM   #14
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Who will do the job?...who had the palm nut?


Palm nut was being used for a while to turn mounts. I love the colors in it and that it looks close to ivory, hence its other name vegetal ivory.

Dave Atherton has used it. However, I get the impression that it lacks consistency from piece to piece and can be difficult to work with.

There are other options such as antler, but from what I've seen, it lacks the warmth of ivory.

As for a restorer, I don't know. Maybe MacLellan bagpipes, Thomas Doucet?

I think it'll be a couple of years before I need to get the work done, so I haven't really narrowed down choices.

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Old 11-06-2017, 10:42 AM   #15
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FWIW, there are some methods for sealing and stabilizing casein that can maintain the structural integrity of the mounts (if they're not too far-gone) and keep them from deteriorating further.
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Old 11-06-2017, 04:23 PM   #16
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FWIW, there are some methods for sealing and stabilizing casein that can maintain the structural integrity of the mounts (if they're not too far-gone) and keep them from deteriorating further.


Please could you send me any links to these. I have looked around the internet to no avail. Personally, I like the color of the old casein mounts and would prefer to stabilize them rather than replace them.

I have read somewhere that cyanoacrylate (superglue) mixed into varnish works.

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Old 11-07-2017, 11:45 AM   #17
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I don't have a link to DIY products, but I know that several pipe makers have done this. I'd contact Rick Pettigrew (at Dunbar), Thomas Doucet, Roddy MacLellan or Michael MacHarg.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:48 AM   #18
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I, too, would love to learn about this. I've worked quite a bit with old casein. Some has come through the years in remarkable condition, other examples have the consistency of a dry biscuit. From what I've read drying is the major cause of long term deterioration, so I try to store casein mounted pipes in a humidity controlled environment. I think also industrial pollution, the coal burning years in the big cities, is at least partially to blame for the worst of the decay. But, this is just a theory.
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Old 11-08-2017, 04:17 PM   #19
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I wonder if an acrylic coating applied to the casein mounts would protect them.

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