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Old 06-28-2019, 06:04 AM   #21
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I don't know, I mean, he started off mounted on a horse wearing impenetrable armour, that seems a reasonably fair fight to me
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Old 06-28-2019, 06:14 AM   #22
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It was a method used throughout Europe. In the Kelvingrove museum, where I work, we have a large collection of medieval weapons and armour. One section is devoted entirely to the injuries suffered by armoured soldiers.
Dismounting them and then dispatching them was the usual method. Damage to the armour shows the most common methods were using a long blade or a sharp pointed object that resembles a railroad spike, and hammering it either through the groin, or by dislocating the unfortunate's arm at the shoulder and hammering the pointed object through the armpit into the chest.

Medieval war was very brutal.
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Old 06-28-2019, 06:37 AM   #23
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Old 06-28-2019, 07:53 AM   #24
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But surely armoured knights were, as shown by the sheer expense of their armour, wealthy and therefore worth more alive for ransom?

I am not doubting that what you say is true but it seems like a missed financial opportunity for those who have managed to un-horse and disable the knight.

Would an army have had specialist teams of, for want of a better term, 'Knight butcherers' to make the process efficient?
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Old 06-29-2019, 04:18 AM   #25
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A lot of the time it was a matter of numbers. At the Battle of Bannockburn there were over 2000 English cavalry. It would have been impossible to capture and ransom such a huge amount. Around two thirds of the cavalry were unseated and despatched on the ground by killing teams, including 100 knights of the realm and an Earl.
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Old 06-29-2019, 06:21 AM   #26
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Very brutal. There must have been heaps of canned Englishmen all over the battlefield. I can't help but feel sympathy for the Knight who met his fate helpless like a bug on it's back being executed in such a brutal fashion.
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Old 06-29-2019, 06:26 AM   #27
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Just me?...or has this thread actually lost it’s ‘related to Piping’ genre.....
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Old 06-29-2019, 06:29 AM   #28
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Sorry just curious about a brutal part of Scots history that sprung from the discussion of the Dirk in the drawing. I shall say no more about the gruesome practices of mediaeval Scotland.
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Old 07-04-2019, 05:11 AM   #29
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Can anyone I.D. the subject sketch? My 1976 issue of the Sandy Jones tutor sports a cover sketch of a ‘Jacobite-ish’ looking gentleman with a set of ‘some kind’ of bagpipes laying next to him. Studying the picture today....for no reason...I noted that there is also what looks like a VERY..long blowstick draped in his lap.
Anyone know more about this chap? The artist? The ‘bagpipes’...the extra blowstick....


Have you considered that it could be a walking stick?


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Old 07-04-2019, 07:07 AM   #30
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Have you considered that it could be a walking stick?


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