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Old 10-14-2018, 02:29 PM   #41
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Default Re: Tone Protector vs. Pipers Pal

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If there are figures then produce them to justify the gross expense. While I wait for this I will just suck on my reeds as per the advice of JL. His piping medals and awards are recommendation enough for me pending something more credible.
Here's what I know: I am a professional grade piper, and it's been working well for me.
Grade 1 bands around the world, Simon Fraser and your cited Jack Lee included, are using it.
So, in short, pipers a lot better than either of us (including Callum Beaumont, Iain Speirs, Alasdair Dunn, just to name a few) are using them and sure seem to think that they work.

So, you keep on sucking your reeds, and I will keep having success with my toneprotector and we will all go home happy.
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Old 10-14-2018, 05:42 PM   #42
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Default Re: Tone Protector vs. Pipers Pal

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Here's what I know: I am a professional grade piper, and it's been working well for me.
Grade 1 bands around the world, Simon Fraser and your cited Jack Lee included, are using it.
So, in short, pipers a lot better than either of us (including Callum Beaumont, Iain Speirs, Alasdair Dunn, just to name a few) are using them and sure seem to think that they work.

So, you keep on sucking your reeds, and I will keep having success with my toneprotector and we will all go home happy.
Jack
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Old 10-21-2018, 07:37 PM   #43
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Default Re: Tone Protector vs. Pipers Pal

Some have noted mold from the piper’s pal. I’m curious if this is caused by the rubber plug? I wonder if it would work the same way as a TP if the bottom was left open?

As far as the science goes, it seems to me the TP and PP are simply addressing the kinetics. Just because the air is 100% RH doesn’t mean the reed is saturated. The kinetics, or speed of adsorption/(or absorption?) seems to be the factor these devices are addressing.

Licking probably results in an uneven distribution of slobber. In my case I’ve actually noticed licked reeds drying out as I play them, so I added too much moisture. I’ve taken to just silently mouthblowing the reed before playing, maybe 30 s - 1 min. Results are variable as to warm up time from none to the same as usual, 10 min or so. I haven’t done any quantifiable experiments.

As I ponder I wonder about temperature. RH is relative because of it’s relationship to temperature. 100% RH at a lower temperature could be the dew point for a higher temperature, where that amount of moisture was only 50% of what the air could really hold. Of course, we might expect the temp of the air exiting your body to be fairly constant providing some sort of reference, though that’s quickly corrupted by ambient conditions.
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Old Yesterday, 05:21 AM   #44
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Hahahaha. Yeah,..youíre right...donít overthink it.
I think Silent mouth blowing as you do ( me too) and playing in will do it for much of BDF contributors.
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