Tying in a new bag

Piping Potential · 02-01-2019, 07:11 PM

I've decided to get a new hide pipe bag (goatskin) and will need to learn to tie it in. I've done some reading and watched some videos and think I'm ready to tackle this daunting task. Just wanted to see if anyone on here has any special tips, tricks, or resources that will make it easier and/or more secure.

DamhCabrachPiping · 02-01-2019, 07:16 PM

The College of Piping Tutor Book 2 has diagrams and instructions for tying in hide bags.

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Green Piper · 02-01-2019, 07:23 PM

Get the skin around the holes good and wet so it’ll stretch rather than tear when you insert the stocks.

Andrew Lenz · 02-01-2019, 10:36 PM

Maybe you’ve already seen it, but this may help:
http://www.bagpipejourney.com/articles/bag-tie-in.shtml

Andrew

magsevenband · 02-02-2019, 01:38 PM

Why not just have someone who is experienced do it while you watch...won't cost much but the bag will if you mess it up.

Green Piper · 02-02-2019, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by magsevenband

Why not just have someone who is experienced do it while you watch...won't cost much but the bag will if you mess it up.

My instructor showed me how to tie in a bag, I certainly am glad that he did.

Piping Potential · 02-04-2019, 04:10 AM

Thanks all for the suggestions. I'd love to have someone show me how to do it but I'm not in a band and I take Skype lessons. I'll ask around and see if maybe there's someone local.

I used to have the CoP Book 2 but haven't seen it in years. I'll use your instructions Andrew along with some help from youtube. And I'll also be sure to get the leather around the holes wet.

Thanks again.

el gaitero · 02-04-2019, 06:21 AM

https://youtu.be/9WSMQjxSJ-A

I don’t apply the theatrics of tying the cord to a bedpost or Newell post or porch railing. I sit and pull the cord just as tight with it wrapped around a short dowel or drumstick piece. Otherwise...pretty much exactly how I’ve done many airtight bags over time..... Even using the syn cord and melting the end shut.

Important...saturate the leather at least 1” beyond the holes to avoid tearing it.

It’s Good to learn how to do this..every piper should be able to take care of his own pipes. But, imho, unless competing regularly at grade 2+ a good syn hybrid bag ( Canmore) makes life much easier in many climates.

Matt Weasner · 02-04-2019, 11:07 AM

I bet your instructor could help via Skype too. No sense not getting their input, even if you're doing the work.

A couple of thoughts - I would get the bag pre-cut if you can, unless you are needing to customize hole positions. Cutting the bag always makes me nervous.

Many retailers will also tie in bags if you send them your stocks as well. Then you can use that bag as a "template" when you go to replace it in a few years.

I've got a Lee goatskin bag tied onto my Hendersons. Super comfortable and all the moisture control I need with just tube trap + Airtite seasoning!

Good luck!!

Matt

el gaitero · 02-04-2019, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Weasner

I would get the bag pre-cut if you can, unless you are needing to customize hole positions. Cutting the bag always makes me nervous. !

Matt

Pre cut by the bag maker....who will usually cut about 1” dia. holes and the wetted leather stretches nicely into the stock grooves.

I had a student come by one time with a bag the jerk retailer had cut...he used the way too large inside diameter of an electrical tape roll as the template...
...there was just barely leather enough to stretch and mate to the stocks d groove.

Fortunately that guy has moved his store to another state.

02-01-2019, 07:11 PM	#1
Piping Potential Forum Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 69	Tying in a new bag I've decided to get a new hide pipe bag (goatskin) and will need to learn to tie it in. I've done some reading and watched some videos and think I'm ready to tackle this daunting task. Just wanted to see if anyone on here has any special tips, tricks, or resources that will make it easier and/or more secure.

02-01-2019, 07:16 PM	#2
DamhCabrachPiping Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada Posts: 233	Re: Tying in a new bag The College of Piping Tutor Book 2 has diagrams and instructions for tying in hide bags. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-01-2019, 07:23 PM	#3
Green Piper Holy smoking keyboard! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 1,594	Re: Tying in a new bag Get the skin around the holes good and wet so it’ll stretch rather than tear when you insert the stocks. __________________ "Melancholy as the Drone of a Lancashire Bagpipe" (Behn, Aphra 1678. Sir Patient Fancy)

02-01-2019, 10:36 PM	#4
Andrew Lenz Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Santa Cruz, California Posts: 10,492	Re: Tying in a new bag Maybe you’ve already seen it, but this may help: http://www.bagpipejourney.com/articles/bag-tie-in.shtml Andrew __________________ Andrew T. Lenz, Jr. www.BagpipeJourney.com - Reference for Bagpipers "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." ---Mark Twain

02-02-2019, 01:38 PM	#5
magsevenband Forum Gold Medal Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Jersey USA Posts: 659	Re: Tying in a new bag Why not just have someone who is experienced do it while you watch...won't cost much but the bag will if you mess it up. __________________ "...I think that I will take two small bottles of Dubonnet and gin with me this morning, in case it is needed..." Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother

02-04-2019, 04:10 AM	#7
Piping Potential Forum Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 69	Re: Tying in a new bag Thanks all for the suggestions. I'd love to have someone show me how to do it but I'm not in a band and I take Skype lessons. I'll ask around and see if maybe there's someone local. I used to have the CoP Book 2 but haven't seen it in years. I'll use your instructions Andrew along with some help from youtube. And I'll also be sure to get the leather around the holes wet. Thanks again.

02-04-2019, 06:21 AM	#8
el gaitero Holy smoking keyboard! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Estados Unidos Posts: 6,482	Re: Tying in a new bag https://youtu.be/9WSMQjxSJ-A I don’t apply the theatrics of tying the cord to a bedpost or Newell post or porch railing. I sit and pull the cord just as tight with it wrapped around a short dowel or drumstick piece. Otherwise...pretty much exactly how I’ve done many airtight bags over time..... Even using the syn cord and melting the end shut. Important...saturate the leather at least 1” beyond the holes to avoid tearing it. It’s Good to learn how to do this..every piper should be able to take care of his own pipes. But, imho, unless competing regularly at grade 2+ a good syn hybrid bag ( Canmore) makes life much easier in many climates.

02-04-2019, 11:07 AM	#9
Matt Weasner Forum Clasp Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: USA Posts: 810	Re: Tying in a new bag I bet your instructor could help via Skype too. No sense not getting their input, even if you're doing the work. A couple of thoughts - I would get the bag pre-cut if you can, unless you are needing to customize hole positions. Cutting the bag always makes me nervous. Many retailers will also tie in bags if you send them your stocks as well. Then you can use that bag as a "template" when you go to replace it in a few years. I've got a Lee goatskin bag tied onto my Hendersons. Super comfortable and all the moisture control I need with just tube trap + Airtite seasoning! Good luck!! Matt __________________ "Don't think; it can only hurt the ball club." Crash Davis