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Old 02-19-2019, 02:31 PM   #1
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Default Learning Flowers of the Forest

I am interested in learning this tune for military funerals. I have read articles that said it is bad luck to play tune when there is no military purpose. How do you learn this tune and practice it with out breaking with tradition?

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Steve
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Old 02-19-2019, 03:43 PM   #2
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I am interested in learning this tune for military funerals. I have read articles that said it is bad luck to play tune when there is no military purpose. How do you learn this tune and practice it with out breaking with tradition?

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Old 02-19-2019, 04:01 PM   #3
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How do you learn this tune and practice it with out breaking with tradition?



Just as has everyone else...


Just start... and practice... by playing it. :)


Can't really think... of any alternative ... :)





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Old 02-19-2019, 06:21 PM   #4
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I am interested in learning this tune for military funerals. I have read articles that said it is bad luck to play tune when there is no military purpose. How do you learn this tune and practice it with out breaking with tradition?



Thanks,



Steve


I’ve played it on Remembrance Day a few years in a row, and I’m not in the military. As long as your intention is to honor fallen soldiers, I wouldn’t put much stock into the “bad luck” thing. Plus it is a very beautiful tune.


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Old 02-20-2019, 04:04 AM   #5
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It certainly is a tradition that exists.



One answer I suppose is to be good enough that you don't have to worry about being unable to play it well at the drop of a hat. But at the end of the day, you do what you need to to get a good performance.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:11 AM   #6
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I would hazard a guess that a more indepth analysis of said tradition might reveal the following to be the actual, intended decree:

"It's bad luck to PERFORM the tune when there is no military purpose."

Further ... there's also the word "purpose" to consider. If one is practicing a tune for the PURPOSE of preparing oneself to put on a smart performance for a future military presentation, well ... that would be a military purpose, now, wouldn't it?

That's my take, anyway.

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Old 02-20-2019, 07:19 AM   #7
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Hi Steve,
Take it from a friend. All printed versions of "Flowers of the Forest", include no disclaimers that this beautiful tune is for military only (as far as I know). I have often performed this for annual Kirkin' Services, Reformation Sundays, for our local Scottish Society, and for funerals when requested. Although I have heard the same story, I do not give it any credibility. Why should any music be exclusive?
Go ahead, learn and play it ! You will be glad you did. You are the piper! What you are paid, is what should be played (played well, of course).
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:05 AM   #8
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Thanks for the info!

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Old 02-21-2019, 05:13 AM   #9
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Many years ago, back in the 1970s, I was required to pipe at a mess dinner held for the retiring sergeant-major. He specifically requested the playing of The Flowers of the Forest - if it would be at all possible, as he was very fond of the tune.


I did oblige, making it part of a medley selection (can't remember what the other tunes were) although I did play a couple of note variations, basically following the tune as often sung.


Perhaps it was unlucky because I was given a huge shot of brandy to down in one, rather than the conventional whisky. Unusually for an RSM he did apologise the next day!
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“When you believe in things that you don't understand
Then you suffer
Superstition ain't the way”
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