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View Poll Results: Which is which?
#1 Poly #2 Blackwood 9 40.91%
#1 Blackwood #2 Poly 13 59.09%
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Old 08-28-2017, 02:57 PM   #1
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Default Poly or Blackwood Chanter: Can you hear the difference?

I've got a survey going on over on bookface with a link to 2 recordings where, hopefully, the only difference is the material of the chanter.

Have a listen and see if you can identify which is which, poly versus blackwood.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...28&id=16729291

If you're not on bookface, feel free to vote here. Link to the blog post containing the recordings is here:

http://www.patrickmclaurin.com/wordpress/?p=3722

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Old 08-28-2017, 05:19 PM   #2
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Default Re: Poly or Blackwood Chanter, Can you hear the difference?

Interesting, but in reality, you're testing whether people can tell the difference between ABW and poly when they're recorded.

In the recordings, you can hear differences, and I have a preference for what I like. But...... you're not recording them using studio hi-fidelity equipment, and playback is not necessarily over high quality equipment, and other considerations include the bit-depth of the recordings, etc.

The best test would be to hear them live.

Having said all of the above, it is good to hear differences between the two chanters. For all I know they may be the same exact chanter, but I believe I can identify a preference, which may be poly or ABW.

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Old 08-28-2017, 05:43 PM   #3
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Default Poly or Blackwood Chanter, Can you hear the difference?

Hmmmm..... having listened to the recordings again on my hifi system (tube driven SET amp into single driver speakers), one recording has a slightly louder chanter which matches the drones in volume to a very pleasing degree.

Either way, both recordings sound pretty good.

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Old 08-28-2017, 06:56 PM   #4
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Default Re: Poly or Blackwood Chanter, Can you hear the difference?

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Hmmmm..... having listened to the recordings again on my hifi system (tube driven SET amp into single driver speakers), one recording has a slightly louder chanter which matches the drones in volume to a very pleasing degree.
Having just mouth blown the reed in both chanters against an iPhone sound pressure level app, I'm afraid to conclude the volume difference in chanters in the two recordings might be an inconsistent rotation/distance from the Zoom H2. Both gave *very* similar readings.

Perhaps this indicates that chanter material has a smaller effect on the perceived sound than orientation?
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Old 08-28-2017, 07:07 PM   #5
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Default Re: Poly or Blackwood Chanter, Can you hear the difference?

Thanks Patrick for the clarification. For me, the high A on one of the recordings seems more prominent than the other.

Anyway, I did not mean to nit-pick regarding volume. From what I can hear on the recordings, both chanters sound good. Maybe also a nod to the design of the Kyo chanters?

I only wish I could get my chanter sound as good as yours. My excuse is that the high altitude and dry air of Denver make my chanter sound wimpy!

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Old 08-28-2017, 08:44 PM   #6
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Default Re: Poly or Blackwood Chanter, Can you hear the difference?

I have no idea which is which. But I like #1 better but both sounds good. Maybe you should tweak your poll to ask folks which chanter/recording they like better - it will be instructive to see the results at the reveal (when will that be btw?).
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Old 08-29-2017, 05:49 AM   #7
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the reveal (when will that be btw?).
Wasn't sure how long to leave the poll open. I arbitrarily set it for 8 days. So after that.
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Old 08-29-2017, 09:05 AM   #8
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Default Re: Poly or Blackwood Chanter, Can you hear the difference?

They both sound great!


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Old 08-29-2017, 03:45 PM   #9
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Default Re: Poly or Blackwood Chanter, Can you hear the difference?

Granted I am listening via a computer laptop speaker, but number 1 sounds a bit more full. So I am guessing #2 is poly. Thanks for doing this, it is interesting at the least.
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Old 08-29-2017, 05:38 PM   #10
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Default Re: Poly or Blackwood Chanter, Can you hear the difference?

For me, number two seems to be tonally "purer" which for some chanters could mean ABW rather than poly.

I'd love to hear them in person. Maybe Patrick could mail them to me after for a trial!

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