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Old 09-07-2017, 05:14 AM   #1
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Default Canmore Hybrid - Grommets or Traditional tying-in

The Canmore Hybrid bag comes in 2 flavours - with grommets or without (i.e. you need to cut your own holes and tie-in the stocks the old school way). Both come with zips. My question - which is preferable and why? I'm guessing there'll be pluses and minuses either way depending on circumstances/priorities, but it'll be good to be aware of what these are before I make the leap.
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Old 09-07-2017, 06:30 AM   #2
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Default Re: Canmore Hybrid - Grommets or Traditional tying-in

1. You lose a little volume with the tying-in that you don't with grommets.

2. Tying-in including inserting the stocks, takes some work, but it isn't too bad.

3. Tying-in does allow a little more flexibility of stock angling, especially good for the blowpipe stock.

4. On some bags, tying-in appears to improve resonance of the drones. However, that may have as much to do with the type of bag material, thickness, and stiffness than the fact that stocks make physical contact with the bag material. While I hear the differences when playing, a spectator may not?

When I played a Bannatyne WMC, I did learn that I could custom order a grommetless version, but never followed it up. Now I use a Gannaway extended small, which I think is wonderful.

The above a just my opinions.

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Old 09-07-2017, 06:53 AM   #3
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Default Re: Canmore Hybrid - Grommets or Traditional tying-in

I use a Canmore Hybrid medium with grommets and I've ordered a no grommet medium to see if I can change the drone placement a bit to my personal preference.

I think the grommets work very well and have plenty of 'play' to them and never feel stiff, which especially important with the blowpipe stock. I always tie in the chanter stock.

They are, in my opinion, the best synthetic bag on the market for comfort and their ability to breathe.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:44 AM   #4
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Default Re: Canmore Hybrid - Grommets or Traditional tying-in

A different take here:
I've owned two Canmore bags, but neither was hybrid. The first gave me 9 years of service- it was tie-in. The second failed in about five years, having developed a crack at the base of the Bass drone grommet which became apparent just as I was warming up before a wedding gig. It was the grommet itself that failed, not the bag, so I was able to tie in the bass drone stock and play the gig five minutes later. I've been playing tied-in hide bags ever since.
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Old 09-07-2017, 12:22 PM   #5
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Default Re: Canmore Hybrid - Grommets or Traditional tying-in

I had a grommet fail on a student's first generation canmore about 19 years ago. Quick application of duct tape got her through the parade. I've seen no failures of this kind since. The grommets on all bags have been a whole new animal since that time and I still feel the Canmore hybrid ext. small bags I'm playing are the most comfortable I've used in my 40+ years of piping.

Having said that, I wouldn't mind tying in my own to get the set up just exactly so. Where's the fun if you aren't always searching for that tiny bit more?!
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Old 09-07-2017, 01:58 PM   #6
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Thanks for all your input. I like the idea of traditional tie-in but I must say the idea of taking a sharp implement to a bag to cut the holes kind of scares me
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Old 09-07-2017, 01:59 PM   #7
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....I always tie in the chanter stock....
Why so, piper_hm?
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Old 09-07-2017, 02:22 PM   #8
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Why so, piper_hm?
Likely because it makes a superior seal and looks better than a hose clamp (jubilee clip).
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Old 09-07-2017, 02:31 PM   #9
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Why so, piper_hm?
It doesn't shift like the Jubilee clip could do (it happened to folks in my band) and the neck is more flexible to fold in my case. Normally you'd have to tape up the clip to avoid it shredding the bag cover.
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:52 PM   #10
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Default Re: Canmore Hybrid - Grommets or Traditional tying-in

I play the new Canmore hybrid with grommets. Best bag I've ever played. The grommets are fantastic. After years of tying in hide bags I am happy with never doing that again. I also use the supplied moisture control system.
This is a no muss no fuss situation.
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