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Old 09-21-2018, 10:34 PM   #1
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Default Shouldn't there be threads in drone seats??

The pipes: Dunbar P3
The issue: I went to reed these new(used) pipes up, and when the bass reed(EZ drone) fell out, I investigated, and I found that the bore is smooth, and contains no threads for the reed hemp to bite into...


Anyone have knowledge of this with Dunbar pipes?
Is there a fix, do you think?






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Old 09-21-2018, 10:36 PM   #2
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Default Re: Shouldn't there be threads??

I just found this...
which you guys probably already knew..


http://learn.dojouniversity.com/how-...one-reed-seat/
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:49 PM   #3
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Default Re: Shouldn't there be threads??

ok, should have done more research...


Already fixed it with a lovely tap & die set..

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Old 09-22-2018, 06:40 AM   #4
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Default Re: Shouldn't there be threads??

There is absolutely no need for a drone reed seat to be threaded. Some reed seats are undersized, and could do with being reamed out, but generally the reed simply needs fitted properly.
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:48 AM   #5
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Default Re: Shouldn't there be threads??

I beg to differ... The shape of our reed seats is bloody ludicrous. No matter how tight the hemp is, I can still wiggle the reeds with little effort. The very shape encourages reeds to work themselves free.


Cylindrical reed seats, like on Eastern European pipes, make more sense. More secure, and it doubles as an extra tuning pin if need be.
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:52 AM   #6
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I beg to differ... The shape of our reed seats is bloody ludicrous. No matter how tight the hemp is, I can still wiggle the reeds with little effort. The very shape encourages reeds to work themselves free.


Cylindrical reed seats, like on Eastern European pipes, make more sense. More secure, and it doubles as an extra tuning pin if need be.

Exactly.

Not sure what seats you have CalumII, has, but there is no way in creation a reed(EZ Drones anyway) would seat & stay..
10 seconds of work with a tap, and it's perfectly fine now..
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:54 AM   #7
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Default Re: Shouldn't there be threads??

I think with experience and patience anyone can learn to securely seat the reeds with no threading.
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:10 AM   #8
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I think with experience and patience anyone can learn to securely seat the reeds with no threading.

perhaps, but I also think that of computer programming...and you know how true THAT is..
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:27 AM   #9
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perhaps, but I also think that of computer programming...and you know how true THAT is..

My 286 was set at the factory...doesnt need any programming....
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I think with experience and patience anyone can learn to securely seat the reeds with no threading.
This is true, but the design of the GHB reed seat imposes an upper limit on the level of security with which a reed can be seated. With one hand on the drone, and a thumb and forefinger on the reed, I can wiggle a reed free which took considerable effort to seat.

Compare to my gaidi, where I have to grab the reed as securely as I can manage (the reeds seat rather deep, so three fingers and a thumb) and twist and pull until I'm on the verge of wrenching my arm. Seating is easy: just push the reed until it bottoms out in the seat.
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