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Old 02-24-2009, 04:43 AM   #1
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Do mid-sections get marked (in Scotland) for their flourishing, the score or a combination of both?
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Old 02-24-2009, 09:48 AM   #2
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Seems to me like they don't get marked at all.
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Old 02-24-2009, 09:59 AM   #3
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A great question to pose to the RSPBA adjudication team, Dougie.
I'm sure that the international panel of experts will happily respond to your inquiries in a timely fashion......
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Old 02-24-2009, 12:16 PM   #4
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...They'd have to wake up and join the rest of us in the 21st century, first.

My advice.......don't hold breath.
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Old 02-24-2009, 07:13 PM   #5
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Here's some background info behind the responses above:

http://www.pipesdrums.com/ViewObject...p;sys-ID=17664
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:10 PM   #6
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Cheers for the responce guys. It's just that being a snare drummer I am now playing the tennor for a few seasons (due to an injury) I'm stil a bit new to the whole mid-section thing. For the majority of last years season I played the beats and omited most of the flourshing (because I diddn't have a clue!). Now this season we have a new "tutor/score writer" and for big chunks of the medely and all the strathspeys there are no definate beats, just `air drumming` for the reason that "Grade 1 & 2 get marked for flourishing and playing. Now is this just an exuse or is it (RSPBA)gospel? Discuss

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Old 02-25-2009, 09:11 PM   #7
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Well, at the Sunday morning workshop session at Winter Storm this year, the combined tenor and bass faculty (including Messrs. Cole and Rowe who commented above) informed an incredulous newbie that the flourishing choreography counts for exactly nothing in their final score. I figure they oughta know.

When you say "air drumming", do you mean complex flourishes that last a number of beats, or do you mean that you do motions to make it look like you're hitting the drum, but you don't actually strike the head?
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Old 02-26-2009, 04:11 AM   #8
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It's a musical performance. How can you critique something that doesn't add to the overall sound? Just like in competitive diving, in which the amount of splash created (actual contact with the water's surface) is the only thing that matters.
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Old 02-26-2009, 07:29 AM   #9
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When the sheets are tallied, it is about the music Rolly, no doubt. The visual component adds nothing to the score...or at least there's no area where it is listed as a criteria. Having said that, imagine an orchestra performing an identical symphony twice: one in very casual clothing, and the other in formal attire. Some will not hear any difference, some will 'see' it.
Just my opinion.
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Old 02-26-2009, 07:44 AM   #10
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R3,

It's easy to critique flourishing, if you are willing to accept that it has value. It's a visual component, that can be graded if you know what you are looking for. Just because the flourishing makes no sound doesn't mean it isn't musical. Tenors flourish and create moves to the beat. Silence/Rests are just as much a part of music as the black notes.

Sorry to inform you about your diving analogy as well. Entry into the water only counts for 20%. The starting position, approach, take off, flight, and entry are all considered equal in diving.

Those of you who know me may find it hard to believe that I dove (poorly) for a short time in Highschool!
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