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Old 01-19-2019, 09:29 AM   #1
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Default Kinnaird Evolution Reeds - Troubleshooting a Hissing Tenor

I've been using Kinnaird Evolution drone reeds on and off (the bass more on than off - excellent reed), and I've noticed that one of the tenor drone reeds is now making hissing and popping noises when in use. I've switched the reeds around, and it does follow the reed, so I'm at a bit of a loss here. There's no dirt under the tongue, the bridle is even all the way 'round, and the tongue appears intact... am I missing something here?
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Old 01-19-2019, 10:19 AM   #2
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Default Re: Kinnaird Evolution Reeds - Troubleshooting a Hissing Tenor

I've heard that sort of sound when condensation builds up in a reed. Does it happen right away, or only after you've played for a while?
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Old 01-19-2019, 11:05 AM   #3
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Default Re: Kinnaird Evolution Reeds - Troubleshooting a Hissing Tenor

It happened right away.

That said, I found the issue: the grub screw was not airtight in the nosecone. I've made a stopgap remedy by smearing "Hemp Seal" on the threads of the screw.

Consider this a solicitation for a permanent fix... I couldn't get teflon tape to stay on the threads.
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Old 01-19-2019, 11:21 AM   #4
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Default Re: Kinnaird Evolution Reeds - Troubleshooting a Hissing Tenor

I have used teflon tape on them before. Tricky but (eventually) workable.
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Old 01-19-2019, 11:43 AM   #5
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Any recommendation on how to apply it? I tried wrapping it directly around the threads, and stretching it over the opening... in neither case did the teflon tape remain where it needed to be.
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:19 PM   #6
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I just struggled with getting the tape around the grub screw. It took a bit of futzing but eventually worked.
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Old 01-19-2019, 01:05 PM   #7
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Default Re: Kinnaird Evolution Reeds - Troubleshooting a Hissing Tenor

Never tried this on a drone reed but in the workshop a common way to repair loose threads is to use Locktite http://m.loctiteproducts.com
It would create an airtight seal.
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Old 01-22-2019, 12:17 PM   #8
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Default Re: Kinnaird Evolution Reeds - Troubleshooting a Hissing Tenor

Aside from Teflon tape or maybe the liquid Teflon sealant, hemp seal/Vaseline/wax might be your best bet. Loctite seems a bit too permanent to me, especially considering how hard it can be to get a good purchase on grabbing the cone and twisting the screw.


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Old 01-22-2019, 02:13 PM   #9
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I was able, with much finesse, to get the Teflon tape to stay. The results were, of course, worth it.
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Old 01-22-2019, 03:43 PM   #10
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A dab of silicone sealant.


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