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Old 06-27-2019, 09:42 AM   #1
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Default New video/exercise sheet for learning Heavy D throws

Hello! I wanted to let folks know I have recently made a video with my approach to learning heavy D Throws, and my method is unlike how I have seen others teach this often troublesome embellishment and thought folks here might want to check it out. There's a downloadable PDF in the description for the exercise.
https://youtu.be/xD3Frmqrxmk

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Old 06-27-2019, 10:50 AM   #2
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Default Re: New video/exercise sheet for learning Heavy D throws

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Hello! I wanted to let folks know I have recently made a video with my approach to learning heavy D Throws, and my method is unlike how I have seen others teach this often troublesome embellishment and thought folks here might want to check it out. There's a downloadable PDF in the description for the exercise.
https://youtu.be/xD3Frmqrxmk

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Thanks Matt, I will give them a try this weekend
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Old 06-27-2019, 11:20 AM   #3
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Sounds strong and neat. Left a comment..what solo scoresheet comments you might have received when using this ‘crossing noise’ D throw.
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Old 06-27-2019, 11:34 AM   #4
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Default Re: New video/exercise sheet for learning Heavy D throws

Our PM and instructor only taught us the light D throw, but when we play tunes together on practice chanter, I usually hear him play the heavy D throw as you are playing it in your video. I will work this into my practice. Thanks
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Old 06-27-2019, 11:56 AM   #5
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Sounds strong and neat. Left a comment..what solo scoresheet comments you might have received when using this ‘crossing noise’ D throw.
Thanks! My reply on YouTube (in case anyone else wanted to join the discussion here): "Well, (in my opinion) every heavy D throw has a crossing noise! My scores sheets generally had positive comments about my heavy D throws... Now if only my other embellishments were as good back in the day!"
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Old 06-29-2019, 04:40 PM   #6
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Too many modern era Pipers play that ghastly light D throw...as Pipe Major Angus would say..."there canna be a throw on D, without low G."
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Old 06-30-2019, 05:08 AM   #7
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Default Re: New video/exercise sheet for learning Heavy D throws

I was taught to play a grip (leumluath) on C, then raise the lower-hand index finger to get D. I think that's what many pipers are actually doing, though they might not be conceptualizing it in that way.

(There's often a disconnect between what musicians conceptualise they are doing and what they are actually doing.)

In any case our old PM played heavy D-throws with two clear clean Low G's in there, rather than the sloppy mess one sometimes hears.

Well he played the light D-throws too; he would use whichever one he thought was best for the situation, and would write out tunes clearly showing which D-throw he wanted us to play.
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Old 07-01-2019, 02:13 PM   #8
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Too many modern era Pipers play that ghastly light D throw...as Pipe Major Angus would say..."there canna be a throw on D, without low G."
But the light D throw has a low G, or did he mean the low G after that low G? Could he have been referring to how some players fail to properly sound a low G on D throws in general, or was he specifically talking about heavy D throws being superior? Also, can light D throws really be that bad if they are commonly used in Piobaireachd, or you find them just undesirable in light music? I ask these questions in a spirit of wanting to learn, not to try and criticize your post, so please don't take it that way
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Could he have been referring to how some players fail to properly sound a low G on D throws in general,
Exactly...I understand the preference of some players for some situations, but there's nothing quite like the sound of a proper heavy D throw..especially with a bit of style and flair attached.
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Old 07-01-2019, 05:32 PM   #10
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Matt,
You mention in the video you came to using this crossing-noise technique after analyzing some of the best players. Do you have any videos for reference? I'm not saying it's wrong, but I've never seen/heard it taught this way nor have I ever heard any upper/open grade pipers play their heavy d-throws with the crossing noise technique.

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