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Old 01-01-2020, 05:20 AM   #1
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Default Predictions for the Next Decade

I was just now listening to a radio show doing the topic

Oddly Specific Predictions for the Coming Decade

and I thought it fitting that we do that here as well.

Let's hear your predictions about the piping world of the 2020s.

Could be solos, bands, chanter pitch, bagpipe materials/technology, drum corps style/instrumentation, pipe band dress, pipe band competition format, fads in tune types or playing style, changes in tempi, increase or decrease in numbers of bands or contests, changes in Drum Major competition format or fashion, or any other topic related to piping, drumming, and Drum Majoring.

Those of us who have been doing the pipe band thing for a half-century have seen many changes, but how many were anticipated? In 1970 could we have predicted the immense rise in chanter pitch? The massive increase in band size? The rise of the Midsection? The fad of non-pointed Hornpipes as march-in tunes? The massive increase in the use of harmony? The White Hose Hegemony (which lasted nearly two decades)? The advent of the black Argyll+black Glengarry+black Ghillie+black Hunting sporran pipe band uniform?

I'll start with my

Pipe Band Dress of the 2020s prediction:

I think bands like Inveraray are pointing the way to a fashion which will challenge and perhaps put an end to the dominant Pipe Band Dress of the last 30 years: the black Argyll/black Glengarry/black Ghillies/black Hunting sporran dress (true the black Argyll became the black waistcoat halfway through).

I think there will be a rise in earth colours and tweeds.

There will be a rise in Weathered tartans, in tweed waistcoats (brown, grey, and the Lovats) in hose of similar colours, of brown sporrans and even brown Ghillies, and a return of the Balmoral bonnet.

Something like this perhaps



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Old 01-01-2020, 08:31 AM   #2
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New Year's Greetings, pancelticpiper, and to All,

At the risk of seeming cynical... I would think that
any perceived opportunity... to increase sales...
and of any style... or accoutrements... would have
our suppliers raising a great and happy Ballyhoo...
about what might be thought to be... The Next Big
Thing... in Dress... and "Style"... and a "Must Have!!"

'Twas ever thus... 'twas ever thus...

"Advertising"... being what it is... let us hope (pray)...
that any such might come as an un-hurried evolution...
rather than some lemming-like plunge... off of some
suddenly "in fashion"... sartorial cliff... :)

And as with all else... "We shall see... We shall see"...
As the Old Chariot Rolls Along...

Regards, and a very... Happy New Year!!... to All,

Pip01






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Old 01-01-2020, 08:48 AM   #3
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...wish they’d bring back White or off White hose... I have a bin full....
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Old 01-01-2020, 08:55 AM   #4
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I predict no pipe bands will take the field wearing GreatKilts

Seriously, I expect a gradual turning back to tuning around concert B flat.
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Old 01-01-2020, 09:09 AM   #5
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...wish they’d bring back White or off White hose... I have a bin full....
I hear you there a' bhalaich!
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Old 01-01-2020, 09:19 AM   #6
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The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Ever increasing pitch.
More piping gizmos to waste your money on.
Boring and predictable pipe band medleys (hornpipe start, slow air and reprise).
Pipe band MSRs, more whinging about lack of repertoire.

And nothing will change.

My god I'm cynical today, must be the hangover
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Old 01-01-2020, 10:49 AM   #7
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Predictions:

- Fewer bands as more players gravitate to the better bands.
- Fewer contests as bands struggle to justify attendance/costs.
- New products continue to push/sell as standards barely increase.
- Pitch continues to rise, medleys etc barely innovate.
- RSPBA continues to host majors in UK/Ireland.

Wishes:

Forbidden Tune Lists for MSRs across grades 1-3, opposite of MAP which aims to increase standard in a narrow way, the forbidden lists increase the repertoire and standard with greater depth and avoids repetition for those attending the games, and those who purchase the CDs of the world's.

Medleys become freeform with no stipulations bar a time limit. You may march/tap your way to the circle, form and play, use any instruments unamplified, cut in and out etc. This could be free-est in Grade 1, with more restrictions down to grade 3. Competition really needs a shake up.

Piobaireachd Society to release their modern typeset tunes for free, or make everything available digitally for a nominal yearly fee. RSPBA has released videos/books for free, this must continue and spread.

Have a competition abroad, or have more invitation/mini band contests in differing formats (such as a mini band playing 6/8's, or tag team solo pipers). Consider moving competitions indoors, like an off season winter event, this may help encourage smaller band numbers again and increase the number of bands once more.

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Old 01-01-2020, 07:13 PM   #8
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The more things change, the more they stay the same.

...Boring and predictable pipe band medleys (hornpipe start, slow air and reprise).
Interesting that you mention the slow air to end the Medley, which is a recent innovation.

Well I remember the time in the 1990s, while PM of a G4 band, running my concept for our new Medley by the PM of the G2 band (who ran the whole organization) which had a reprise of the Air to finish.

He laughed out loud! "End the Medley with the Air??"

How quickly it has gone from outrageous to boring and predictable!

And starting the Medley on an evenly-timed (non-pointed) Hornpipe is a recent innovation too, in the long scheme of things. When I started in bands we marched in to Marches.

(For sure there might be isolated instances of practically anything, I'm talking about these things as standard things that you hear band after band doing at every contest.)
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Interesting that you mention the slow air to end the Medley, which is a recent innovation.

.........

How quickly it has gone from outrageous to boring and predictable!

And starting the Medley on an evenly-timed (non-pointed) Hornpipe is a recent innovation too, in the long scheme of things. When I started in bands we marched in to Marches.
I know! Recent but not that recent I think. We were playing the straight hornpipes marching into medleys in the mid to late 90s. Reprise, a little later.

I'm gonna level, I love the MSR competitions but even I get a little bored of the same tunes over and over even if they are amazing. But balance that with watching a pìobaireachd competition, you might hear the same (set) tune 4 or 5 times. Are we being a bit sensitive?

Medleys now are stale (a couple of exceptions of course), and (my opinion) sometimes the harmonies go too far.
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Seriously, I expect a gradual turning back to tuning around concert B flat.








And now to cite from... "The Old 100th."


"Praise God From Whom All Blessings Flow,"
That this too up-ward pitch may down-ward go,
Relieving our ears from its shrieking blow,
Pray, happen soon!!... Aye!!... not too slow...
Amen.


And a most... Happy New Year... to All !!










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