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Old 01-30-2011, 08:46 AM   #1
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Default Different kind of pipes?

Hi everyone-ok, I'm new to piping, but I thought I had a pretty good idea about all the different kind of pipes out there-I've seen kitchen pipes and shuttle pipes and so forth. But last night at our Burns night dinner, there was a piper in the band who had a set of GHB's that looked subtly different. The tops of the drones were different, kind of like a small wine glass. And I couldn't get a closer look, but I don't think they were combed. I hope someone here can tell me what this gentleman was playing; my google search for "bagpipes with wine glass shaped drones" didn't provide much information...
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:47 AM   #2
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Try searching for chalice-top bagpipes. And enjoy what you find...chalice top drones with plain turned wood are my most favorite style.
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Old 01-30-2011, 09:44 AM   #3
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Check out the pipes on the left side of this page. Beautiful chalice style pipes.

http://www.highland-pipemaker.com/Ma...20Bagpipes.htm
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Old 01-30-2011, 11:11 AM   #4
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kitchen pipes and shuttle pipes...

It's a Pandora's Box of different names, the various sizes of Scottish pipes.

Back in the 19th century most pipemakers made pipes in three sizes:



The smallest were called, back then, "miniature Highland pipes" or "chamber pipes".

Nowadays we usually call them "Scottish Smallpipes" or SSPs for short.

Different makers call them different things. Gibson calls their miniature Highland pipes "fireside" pipes and many people think that "fireside pipes" is a certain type of bagpipe. It's just a brand name for Gibson miniature pipes, actually. One maker calls their SSPs "studio pipes".

Two makers use shuttle drones borrowed from the French Musette Du Cour. John Walsh calls his SSP with shuttle drones "shuttlepipes" and Shepherd calls theirs "Highland Musettes". They're still miniature pipes or SSPs.

Anyhow, about Highland pipes with "chalice" or "wineglass" drone tops:

The earliest datable set of Highland pipes we know of is this set, 1714. The drone tops have a very interesting shape:



We have, in various museums and private collections, various early pipes. Here are two. The brown set is a Julian Goodacre reproduction of the famous "Waterloo drones" supposedly played at Waterloo but probably at least 50 years old at that time. The other set is an original 18th century set.



Kintail, throughout the 70's and until recently, made loads of "chalice" sets.

Here is MacLellan's version of the Waterloo set:

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Old 01-30-2011, 11:29 AM   #5
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Hi everyone-The tops of the drones were different, kind of like a small wine glass....
the heck with chalice top bagpipes...

do you really have a Ferrari ???

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Old 01-30-2011, 12:23 PM   #6
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Yes, I do indeed have a Ferrari-a 1958 Ellena bodied 250 GT. My engine is currently in the shop. It's been there for almost a year, waiting for parts-typical Ferrari. Vintage cars and bagpipes have a few things in common, one of them being that you need LOTS of patience to play with either one, but when they're well tuned and running on all 12 cylinders/all 3 drones, they both sound amazing!
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Thanks everyone for the response-they were indeed chalice top pipes he was playing-very nice!
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It's a Pandora's Box of different names, the various sizes of Scottish pipes.

Back in the 19th century most pipemakers made pipes in three sizes:



The smallest were called, back then, "miniature Highland pipes" or "chamber pipes".

Nowadays we usually call them "Scottish Smallpipes" or SSPs for short.

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Certainly many of us do not usually call them Scottish Smallpipes. Parlor pipes, Chamber pipes and Miniature Highland pipes are still valid names.(Well, OK, we could argue about the last because of the cylinder bore(practice) chanter, but never the less) For many of us, Scottish Smallpipe means the modern, NSP reed-based tenor chanter matched with drones in a common stock, whether bellows-blown of mouth-blown.
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Vintage cars and bagpipes have a few things in common, one of them being that you need LOTS of patience to play with either one, but when they're well tuned and running on all 12 cylinders/all 3 drones, they both sound amazing!
you definitely have your head in the right place for learning how to play the bagpipe Good luck.
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