Attaching T-zip to leather

Seth · 09-07-2011, 04:42 PM

Anyone have a clue as to what adhesive method pipebag makers use to attach the T-zip zippers to leather? I have have never messed with them before and need to figure out the best method for attaching this thing directly to leather. I have some ideas but a proven method would be best to avoid any waste in prototyping. The zippers backing is pretty much rubber. Seth

Smjprogrammer · 09-08-2011, 05:04 AM

From what I can tell every single pipebag out there, weather it is leather, gortex, or rubber uses the Tizip http://www.tizip.com/ and they are gluing the backing on the inside. This way the outer zipper does not pull the backing off it is putting pressure on the bag. Air pressure on the inside does not blow the zipper off it would always be pushing it on. As far as glue goes, they might be using this http://mdbuyinggroup.com/products/po...e/barge-cement stuff.

Kirby Allen · 09-08-2011, 05:52 AM

From what I can see on my Ross bags they glue the zipper inside the bag against the leather then lay the goretex over that.

Seth · 09-08-2011, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirby Allen

From what I can see on my Ross bags they glue the zipper inside the bag against the leather then lay the goretex over that.

Thanks guys, I am using a T-zip zipper. I have a few ideas up my sleeve that I'm pretty sure of. I'll let you guys know if I'm successful. Seth

Flyrod · 09-08-2011, 04:21 PM

Why not shoot an email to Gannaway and ask them what they're using to affix their Ti-zip zippers in their hide bags? Who knows: they might just tell you!

Seth · 04-20-2012, 05:56 PM

It's quite a time consuming task but its finished, finally.

Klondike Waldo · 04-21-2012, 05:28 AM

What kind of pipes fit that bag, Seth?

It looks like an "homage" to Michael MacHarg's work

Seth · 04-21-2012, 06:12 AM

I did talk to Michael about adding the zipper but the bag is my own design and my own work. My bag construction is different from Michaels. I know how he makes his bags from talking
to him and I do one step that he doesn't do, but their are many great ways to make bags. I have been contemplating having Michael make my bags, but I have a little sense of pride in the fact that I make all the parts for my bags. I use the same template I use for my Swedish pipes but I add 4 inches to the back of the bag and I riveted the bag instead of using my no-stitch or sew method. This is how I make my smallpipe bags too but I also use the no-stitch method or rivets.
Seth

09-07-2011, 04:42 PM	#1
Seth Forum Silver Medal Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 488	Attaching T-zip to leather Anyone have a clue as to what adhesive method pipebag makers use to attach the T-zip zippers to leather? I have have never messed with them before and need to figure out the best method for attaching this thing directly to leather. I have some ideas but a proven method would be best to avoid any waste in prototyping. The zippers backing is pretty much rubber. Seth __________________ Seth Hamon ~ Border Pipes, Swedish Pipes, Uilleann Pipes, & Scottish Smallpipes. www.SwedishBagpipes.com www.SethHamon.com

09-08-2011, 05:04 AM	#2
Smjprogrammer Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: USA Posts: 192	Re: Attaching T-zip to leather From what I can tell every single pipebag out there, weather it is leather, gortex, or rubber uses the Tizip http://www.tizip.com/ and they are gluing the backing on the inside. This way the outer zipper does not pull the backing off it is putting pressure on the bag. Air pressure on the inside does not blow the zipper off it would always be pushing it on. As far as glue goes, they might be using this http://mdbuyinggroup.com/products/po...e/barge-cement stuff. Last edited by Smjprogrammer; 09-08-2011 at 05:07 AM.

09-08-2011, 05:52 AM	#3
Kirby Allen Holy smoking keyboard! Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,160	Re: Attaching T-zip to leather From what I can see on my Ross bags they glue the zipper inside the bag against the leather then lay the goretex over that. __________________ Never pick a fight with a guy in a skirt, especially when he has 699 friends, all in skirts. http://officeofstrategicinfluence.com/spam/

09-08-2011, 04:21 PM	#5
Flyrod Forum Silver Medal Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Yelm, WA Posts: 399	Re: Attaching T-zip to leather Why not shoot an email to Gannaway and ask them what they're using to affix their Ti-zip zippers in their hide bags? Who knows: they might just tell you! __________________ "Tha ceol 'sna maidean, Ma bheir thus' as e" There's music in the sticks, if you can draw it out...

04-20-2012, 05:56 PM	#6
Seth Forum Silver Medal Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 488	Re: Attaching T-zip to leather It's quite a time consuming task but its finished, finally. __________________ Seth Hamon ~ Border Pipes, Swedish Pipes, Uilleann Pipes, & Scottish Smallpipes. www.SwedishBagpipes.com www.SethHamon.com

04-21-2012, 05:28 AM	#7
Klondike Waldo Holy smoking keyboard! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Braintree MA USA Posts: 5,020	Re: Attaching T-zip to leather What kind of pipes fit that bag, Seth? It looks like an "homage" to Michael MacHarg's work __________________ Slainte Leibh/ Slan Leat, Bob Cameron

04-21-2012, 06:12 AM	#8
Seth Forum Silver Medal Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 488	Re: Attaching T-zip to leather I did talk to Michael about adding the zipper but the bag is my own design and my own work. My bag construction is different from Michaels. I know how he makes his bags from talking to him and I do one step that he doesn't do, but their are many great ways to make bags. I have been contemplating having Michael make my bags, but I have a little sense of pride in the fact that I make all the parts for my bags. I use the same template I use for my Swedish pipes but I add 4 inches to the back of the bag and I riveted the bag instead of using my no-stitch or sew method. This is how I make my smallpipe bags too but I also use the no-stitch method or rivets. Seth __________________ Seth Hamon ~ Border Pipes, Swedish Pipes, Uilleann Pipes, & Scottish Smallpipes. www.SwedishBagpipes.com www.SethHamon.com Last edited by Seth; 04-21-2012 at 06:20 AM.