USA/Can Solo competitors - Page 2

Tripp · 04-17-2012, 07:43 PM

So if I were to go to Scotland, say next year, and wanted to compete I'd be in the C grade because that's the lowest adult grade there is (started when I was 36 am 39 now)? FWIW, I compete in WUSPBA G3 here in the states. Is that how it works over there? I guess I won't be worried about competing at any of the games if that's the case.

Andrew Lenz · 04-17-2012, 09:40 PM

Not to highjack the thread, but for adult pipers, there is also the CLASP over in Scotland, a relatively recent development (last five years or so):
http://www.theclasp.co.uk/

I have yet to grasp now the CPA and the CLASP interact or if they are parallel organizations . . . maybe with the CPA for more serious pipers and CLASP for serious, but not as accomplished?

Dunno. Maybe someone can enlighten me.

Andrew

Neil Clark · 04-17-2012, 11:52 PM

Not all competitions are graded. There are just as many "open" competitions, but bear in mind, that there you may well find yourself playing against the top players. Just depends who turns up on the day.

C grade is the entry level in adult competition, as ran by the CPA. Downside is that there are some really good players in that grade, guys returning, and the best fresh from the juvenile.

If you've only been playing 3 years, I would strongly reccomend the CLASP as Andrew says. You will get constructive feedback here, and if you compete in open or graded comp, you are inelligible for the CLASP.

Any comp is generally very encouraging, and the guys are all really friendly. When I started back in 2010, I went into Glenurquhart, and played against Andrew Hayes, who went on to win the gold medal that week. Amongst other top players. I shouldnt really have been there, wasnt prepared, or even playing that well, but all the other guys were totally supportive and encouraging.

SquintingPatrick · 04-18-2012, 12:04 AM

There is an article about CLASP in Piping Today, Issue 50

http://www.thepipingcentre.co.uk/piping-today-magazine/

Neil Clark · 04-18-2012, 12:48 AM

was rushing earlier. Also, if it helps, most comps, CPA graded and open, are submit 3 or 4 of each tune type, ie, Piob, M/S/R. If you're lucky, its own choice of H/Pipe, Jig, but sometimes its submit 3 of each there too. Braemar is submit 8 piob!

C piob is own choice, but from B up, it's set tunes, (in graded comp)

Thanks for all the info on the North American stuff guys, really useful

Scot Kortegaard · 04-18-2012, 01:55 PM

Is there anything like this (rule no. 4) in Scotland? Would love to read it if there is. Rule no. 4 spells it out clearly as to what's expected. I would think if I were an overseas player coming to BC, that I'd be quite clear as to where to slot myself in.

Cheers,
Scot.

Neil Clark · 04-19-2012, 12:03 AM

Yes. If you enter the CLASP, you will be graded. If you enter/join CPA, you will be graded C unless you ask, and are succesful in your attempt, to be assessed capable of competing A or B.
And theoretically, there's nothing to stop ANYONE with the tunes to submit, from competing in open comp. Don't know where and if this is written down

04-17-2012, 07:43 PM	#11
Tripp Holy smoking keyboard! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Westminster, Colorado Posts: 1,164	Re: USA/Can Solo competitors So if I were to go to Scotland, say next year, and wanted to compete I'd be in the C grade because that's the lowest adult grade there is (started when I was 36 am 39 now)? FWIW, I compete in WUSPBA G3 here in the states. Is that how it works over there? I guess I won't be worried about competing at any of the games if that's the case. __________________ Cheers, Tripp Denver Bagpipe Lessons Skype Bagpipe Lessons

04-17-2012, 09:40 PM	#12
Andrew Lenz Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Santa Cruz, California Posts: 8,316	Re: USA/Can Solo competitors Not to highjack the thread, but for adult pipers, there is also the CLASP over in Scotland, a relatively recent development (last five years or so): http://www.theclasp.co.uk/ I have yet to grasp now the CPA and the CLASP interact or if they are parallel organizations . . . maybe with the CPA for more serious pipers and CLASP for serious, but not as accomplished? Dunno. Maybe someone can enlighten me. Andrew __________________ Andrew T. Lenz, Jr. www.BagpipeJourney.com - Reference for Bagpipers "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." ---Mark Twain Last edited by Andrew Lenz; 04-17-2012 at 09:42 PM.

04-17-2012, 11:52 PM	#13
Neil Clark Forum Clasp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drumnadrochit, scotland Posts: 739	Re: USA/Can Solo competitors Not all competitions are graded. There are just as many "open" competitions, but bear in mind, that there you may well find yourself playing against the top players. Just depends who turns up on the day. C grade is the entry level in adult competition, as ran by the CPA. Downside is that there are some really good players in that grade, guys returning, and the best fresh from the juvenile. If you've only been playing 3 years, I would strongly reccomend the CLASP as Andrew says. You will get constructive feedback here, and if you compete in open or graded comp, you are inelligible for the CLASP. Any comp is generally very encouraging, and the guys are all really friendly. When I started back in 2010, I went into Glenurquhart, and played against Andrew Hayes, who went on to win the gold medal that week. Amongst other top players. I shouldnt really have been there, wasnt prepared, or even playing that well, but all the other guys were totally supportive and encouraging. __________________ http://www.greatglenpiping.com/

04-18-2012, 12:04 AM	#14
SquintingPatrick Forum Silver Medal Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: USA Posts: 328	Re: USA/Can Solo competitors There is an article about CLASP in Piping Today, Issue 50 http://www.thepipingcentre.co.uk/piping-today-magazine/

04-18-2012, 12:48 AM	#15
Neil Clark Forum Clasp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drumnadrochit, scotland Posts: 739	Re: USA/Can Solo competitors was rushing earlier. Also, if it helps, most comps, CPA graded and open, are submit 3 or 4 of each tune type, ie, Piob, M/S/R. If you're lucky, its own choice of H/Pipe, Jig, but sometimes its submit 3 of each there too. Braemar is submit 8 piob! C piob is own choice, but from B up, it's set tunes, (in graded comp) Thanks for all the info on the North American stuff guys, really useful __________________ http://www.greatglenpiping.com/

04-18-2012, 01:55 PM	#16
Scot Kortegaard Forum Clasp Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 941	Re: USA/Can Solo competitors Is there anything like this (rule no. 4) in Scotland? Would love to read it if there is. Rule no. 4 spells it out clearly as to what's expected. I would think if I were an overseas player coming to BC, that I'd be quite clear as to where to slot myself in. Cheers, Scot. __________________ Beauty is in the eye of the 'beerholder'. The Kamloops Pipe Band Society

04-19-2012, 12:03 AM	#17
Neil Clark Forum Clasp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drumnadrochit, scotland Posts: 739	Re: USA/Can Solo competitors Yes. If you enter the CLASP, you will be graded. If you enter/join CPA, you will be graded C unless you ask, and are succesful in your attempt, to be assessed capable of competing A or B. And theoretically, there's nothing to stop ANYONE with the tunes to submit, from competing in open comp. Don't know where and if this is written down __________________ http://www.greatglenpiping.com/