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Old 04-16-2012, 03:55 AM   #1
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yep. Lis made this gaita chanter ... here more
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:56 PM   #2
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That's really interesting. Does it make fine tuning any easier?
I use a separate piece for the last four inches of my border pipe chanters. I did it at first to save wood, but it also looks nice to have more options for color variation.
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:10 AM   #3
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Allways wondering how much this kind of invention could help tuning..with GHB or UP chanters too.What's the main thing why chanter have to be made from one piece,.. amount of work etc..or?
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Old 04-17-2012, 07:44 AM   #4
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I don't think it would help with tuning because you still have to align the hole in the tenon (metal part) of one piece with the hole in the wood on the other piece. Also, if you don't make it flush you'll have little gaps on the inside bore but I have no idea if that would adversely affect the performance/tone.
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I don't think it would help with tuning because you still have to align the hole in the tenon (metal part) of one piece with the hole in the wood on the other piece. Also, if you don't make it flush you'll have little gaps on the inside bore but I have no idea if that would adversely affect the performance/tone.
In addition to pipes both Great and Small, I also play the clarinet. Have for 55 years now (started in 4th grade). Certain notes of the clarinet are normally sharp so you tune one section of the clarinet by pulling out the barrell (below the mouthpiece) and another set of notes by pulling out the middle section (between the upper and lower section). Also, as you play, and especially on stage with lights overhead, the instrument warms up more and goes sharp during the performance so you pull out some more. There is no adverse effect on tone, at least as far as I can tell.
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:42 AM   #6
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I guess a better comparison would be to an oboe as it seems a clarinet is more like a drone which has all sorts bore changes. And, if an oboe comes in pieces, do you tune it by separating the pieces from flush?
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:35 PM   #7
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I guess a better comparison would be to an oboe as it seems a clarinet is more like a drone which has all sorts bore changes. And, if an oboe comes in pieces, do you tune it by separating the pieces from flush?
Never seen an oboe come in parts. It is one piece and the tuning is done when you make the reed. When making the final cut and scraping of the reeds you have your instrument and meter at hand to make sure it is in tune. In this case, you do want the reed pushed all the way in so that there is no gab between the bottom of the reed and the top of the bore that the reed sets up against.
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The holes on the brass sections which must line up with the outside holes ( I think?) appear to be oval shaped, so it may be designed to be tuned as has been hypothesized. That said, changing the length of many conical instruments can do very funny things, depending on where and how the bore is affected.
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The holes on the brass sections which must line up with the outside holes ( I think?) appear to be oval shaped, so it may be designed to be tuned as has been hypothesized. That said, changing the length of many conical instruments can do very funny things, depending on where and how the bore is affected.
I thought about that after I replied and almost deleted my post. The last thing I want to do is change some lengths of the bore. Funny things, indeed.
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I guess a better comparison would be to an oboe as it seems a clarinet is more like a drone which has all sorts bore changes. And, if an oboe comes in pieces, do you tune it by separating the pieces from flush?
A clarinet is essentially cylindrically bored, from the barrel to the beginning of the bell flare. ( Like smallpipes, which also only support half of the harmonic series.) I don't recall ever seeing an oboe that was not bored in one piece.
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