Band grade entries

New Hudson Highlander · 05-29-2005, 06:15 AM

How many grade competitions can a band enter at one event? Could, for example, a grade 1 band enter at grade 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 and clean up?

That certainly wouldn't be ethical, but are there rules to prevent this from happening?

How about with solo piping?

Having not yet advanced beyond "Senior Amateur", I've never needed to know.

-NHH

Celtic Mitch · 05-29-2005, 06:32 AM

I can't imagine why a band would do that. When you register your band with your home association it is classified by grade, so entering another grade to "clean up" would not be allowed.

I'm fairly certain as well that when you register with your home association as a solo player you are also classified by grade.

Drew McPheeters · 05-29-2005, 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by New Hudson Highlander:
That certainly wouldn't be ethical, but are there rules to prevent this from happening?

How about with solo piping?

It is implicit in the contest. A grade X contest is a contest for grade X bands. In WUSPBA there are specific rules that state solo competitors must compete in their grade, although it was more intended as a limit on people playing up a grade.

kcpiper06 · 05-29-2005, 05:38 PM

a band can compete up in the mwpba if there are three other bands competing in the higher grade. i know that, springfield did it at the st. louis games last year.

Scott Foster · 05-29-2005, 06:33 PM

yeah tony's right

Bob Brodie · 05-29-2005, 06:36 PM

The original question dealt with players/bands from higher grades playing DOWN, not going up. And Drew's correct, there are rules in place to prevent that from happening.

Occasionally, there will be a band or soloist who is really performing above grade level during the season and yeah...they'll clean up. But most of the time their association is aware of it, and makes the correct adjustments.

BTW, I heard that Coyne Memorial (a grade 2 pipe band) played up at the grade 1 contest at Pomona because there was no grade 2 event. They finished third out of three bands.

- Bob Brodie

chi-jason · 05-30-2005, 12:39 PM

I think that most associations stipulate that you may only enter in one grade.

Kent Argubright · 05-30-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by cndjason:
I think that most associations stipulate that you may only enter in one grade.

For obvious reasons! That's why you never see it happen.

You would hope that a Championship band in Grade 4, lets say.....when advanced to Grade 3 the next year, should be running in about the 25%tile. You would hope they would be running in the 50%tile to be secure in the next Grade.

Cheers,
Doc

Cheers,
Doc

Steve S. · 05-30-2005, 08:43 PM

I am not sure about bands, but I do believe in solos pipers stay in grade IV too long when they should probably be in the next grade.

05-29-2005, 06:15 AM	#1
New Hudson Highlander Holy smoking keyboard! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New Hudson, Michigan Posts: 2,054	Band grade entries How many grade competitions can a band enter at one event? Could, for example, a grade 1 band enter at grade 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 and clean up? That certainly wouldn't be ethical, but are there rules to prevent this from happening? How about with solo piping? Having not yet advanced beyond "Senior Amateur", I've never needed to know. -NHH __________________ "It only has 9 notes...how hard can it be to play?"

05-29-2005, 06:32 AM	#2
Celtic Mitch Holy smoking keyboard! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,607	Re: Band grade entries I can't imagine why a band would do that. When you register your band with your home association it is classified by grade, so entering another grade to "clean up" would not be allowed. I'm fairly certain as well that when you register with your home association as a solo player you are also classified by grade. __________________ It's Still All About Me! I put the "cha" in Chocolate!

05-29-2005, 05:38 PM	#4
kcpiper06 Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas City Posts: 46	Re: Band grade entries a band can compete up in the mwpba if there are three other bands competing in the higher grade. i know that, springfield did it at the st. louis games last year. __________________ Anthony Swindler-St. Clair Kansas City St. Andrew P&D Kansas City, Missouri www.kcpipeband.org Monmouth College Pipe Band Monmouth, Illinois

05-29-2005, 06:33 PM	#5
Scott Foster Forum Silver Medal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 377	Re: Band grade entries yeah tony's right __________________ St. Andrew's Society of Winnipeg Pipe Band Grades 2 and 4 www.saspb.com

05-29-2005, 06:36 PM	#6
Bob Brodie Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 46	Re: Band grade entries The original question dealt with players/bands from higher grades playing DOWN, not going up. And Drew's correct, there are rules in place to prevent that from happening. Occasionally, there will be a band or soloist who is really performing above grade level during the season and yeah...they'll clean up. But most of the time their association is aware of it, and makes the correct adjustments. BTW, I heard that Coyne Memorial (a grade 2 pipe band) played up at the grade 1 contest at Pomona because there was no grade 2 event. They finished third out of three bands. - Bob Brodie

05-30-2005, 12:39 PM	#7
chi-jason Forum Silver Medal Join Date: May 2003 Location: chicago Posts: 361	Re: Band grade entries I think that most associations stipulate that you may only enter in one grade. __________________ "Merica... f*** yeah!"

05-30-2005, 08:43 PM	#9
Steve S. Forum Gold Medal Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Edgewater, MD Posts: 539	Re: Band grade entries I am not sure about bands, but I do believe in solos pipers stay in grade IV too long when they should probably be in the next grade.