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  • #16
    If you are a metronome user, it can be revealing to record yourself and see if you are actually playing on the click. Among the many challenges of playing the bagpipes competently, the execution of the gracing and embellishments can add to the complexity of playing rhythmically.

    If you're dancing, or tapping your toe, or clapping along, or marching...what's more important, the note, the embellishment, or the beat?
    "What we play is life." - Louis Armstrong

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    • #17
      Another thought: If you're metronome challenged, you could switch to piobaireachd!

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      • #18
        Pipe major had the metronome in his sporran- at the line. Forgot to use it but had a good pace, another band cranked up nearby, timing was...off. So Close!
        Loud is Easy, Soft is Hard

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Pablopicasso420 View Post
          Pipe major had the metronome in his sporran- at the line. Forgot to use it but had a good pace, another band cranked up nearby, timing was...off. So Close!
          That was unfortunate (and either rude or a fault of organizers); but we had the same experience. We were just marching on (competition was on the infield), when a competing band came playing down the track. It threw out drummers off, which, in turn, threw the pipers off (given that we work hard to get pipers to listen to the drummers). Needless to say, we were far from happy.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by EquusRacer View Post

            and either rude or a fault of organizers
            Talk about hitting the nail on the head! The organizer of the competitions was playing in the other band!! Far from happy indeed!
            Loud is Easy, Soft is Hard

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            • #21

              And... in the midst... of all of this...
              perhaps... and just perhaps...
              a really good bass drummer...
              would aid to eschew... most of
              these difficulties... pitfalls...
              and... discombobulations... :-)

              Just a thought...

              My friends all know,
              With what a brave carouse...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Pip01 View Post
                And... in the midst... of all of this...
                perhaps... and just perhaps...
                a really good bass drummer...
                would aid to eschew... most of
                these difficulties... pitfalls...
                and... discombobulations... :-)

                Just a thought...
                A good bass drummer is essential for a number of things beyond just tempo (e.g., idiom). However, that doesn't keep some timing-challenged pipers from jumping the gun, rounding pointed tunes, etc.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by EquusRacer View Post
                  A good bass drummer is essential for a number of things beyond just tempo (e.g., idiom). However, that doesn't keep some timing-challenged pipers from jumping the gun, rounding pointed tunes, etc.
                  I have a pipe major who was frustrated to hear a piper in our old band consistently (and obviously) ignore the bass drummer - and when questioned, he nonchalantly said he never listened, and was confused at why she was constantly stopping us to ask the pipe corps to LISTEN TO THE BASS ... He was an idiot, so it explained a lot...didn't last long in our band.

                  Margaret

                  Sarchasm (n): The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.

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                  • #24
                    Pip the eternal optimist...A really good bass forsooth!. For some reason I'm reminded of Shakespeare. A Bass! A BASS! My Kingdom for a Bass! Unfortunately, at the lower levels, it's usually not the strongest player. The younger drummers want to be on snare. The weight of the drum disqualifies a lot of players. I try to write some interesting scores for the bass and keep them interested but it's just a hard sale. We had a new one the other day that was struggling with the roll offs. Watch my foot! 1....2....3 NO! The struggle (for drummers) is real.
                    Loud is Easy, Soft is Hard

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Pablopicasso420

                      Pip the eternal optimist...

                      Greetings to All,

                      Well... certainly... and eternally... Hopeful. ... and as
                      the Old Saw (but with New Teeth) goes... "We can only
                      live in Hope."

                      That being said... being able to hear... the PM... or the
                      bass drum... is but one small matter... but being able to
                      listen... and to be guided by them... is entirely another.

                      Which is the eternal Why... of our going... to practice.

                      Being but able... to put ourselves aside... and being able
                      to follow... is sometimes... as much of a talent... as being
                      able... to play The Great Beast... as it should be played.

                      And... the Harmony... available... from our Best Efforts...
                      redounds (good word, that) to our playing... and to the
                      enjoyment... of those who hear us.

                      Trusting that these several and seemingly divergent matters...
                      can... still and all... Come 'Round Right...

                      With Regards,

                      Pip01



                      With a quick after thought...
                      Well and of course... it's a "struggle" for drummers!!
                      Doing it Right!!... is a "struggle"... for all of us!!
                      Which is why... we practice... practice... practice!!








                      Last edited by Pip01; 04-11-2023, 11:08 AM.
                      My friends all know,
                      With what a brave carouse...

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                      • #26

                        Just a Quick Bit of an Add-On... Re... Playing The Bass Drum... :-)
                        (I've made mention of this long before... but with our newer
                        Members... perhaps Time... for a resurrection. :-)

                        Now these Donkey's Years Past... one Saturday evening... I
                        wandered... stumbled into... a bar... and there was a pipe band
                        playing!!... and I was "Home!!" :-)

                        Saturday nights thereafter... found me sitting at the end of the
                        bar... and closest to where the band played... and I was there
                        until closing.

                        After some months... and becoming the well acquainted with
                        the band... late night... and just before the last set... the bass
                        drummer... who was a truly grand old piper... and was just
                        "standing in" for the evening...comes up... and says to me...

                        "Here!! You take this and play it... I'm tired... "
                        and I said... I don't know how to play the bass drum."
                        and he said... "You can tap your foot... can't ya?"
                        and I said "Well... yes."...
                        and he said...
                        "Good!! Every time you tap your foot... hit th' friggin' drum!!" :-)

                        And so... my Life... took a very pivotal turn... and not having made
                        a bollix of it... I was sent for tuition with a truly grand bass drummer...
                        and I became the band's regular bass drummer... and about a year
                        later... and after yet another long Saturday night... the same fellow
                        says to me...

                        "What are you doing Thursday night next?"
                        And I said ... "Nothing in particular."
                        And he said... "Good. Come by the house about 7."
                        And when I arrived... he had the old original CoP book... and a pc
                        waiting for me... and so... my Great Waltz About... with our Great
                        Beast... then began... :-)

                        And I know... that it is True... of and for... many... many others of us...
                        that Piping... has carried us... many places... that we would not have
                        normally gone... and has made for us... really good friends... that we
                        would not have met... and has given us... many lovely... and grand
                        memories... that we shall re-visit... and re-enjoy...as we... and later
                        on... sit by the fire... :-)

                        Regards... and Best Wishes... to All,

                        Pip01









                        Last edited by Pip01; 04-14-2023, 07:51 AM.
                        My friends all know,
                        With what a brave carouse...

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