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  • el gaitero
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    Originally posted by Jim Fogelman View Post

    If the retainer is the invasalign style then I agree with you. If it is the traditional wire kind, then I agree with the dentist.
    Yes...use of a custom molded ‘retainer’ ( sturdy thin ‘invisi-line’ like ) follows the removal of the wiring. Wearing retainers each night helps ‘retain’ the position the teeth have been moved (in)to over whatever long treatment period of time.

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  • Jim Fogelman
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    Originally posted by el gaitero View Post

    Is she a piper?....has she tried it?...if not, sorry,..,respectfully, she’s flat out wrong.

    Early in this thread I mentioned I’ve used my post braces ‘retainer’ on and off as needed during some subsequent dental work involving a new front cap.
    Given the very thin and conforming nature of the ‘retainer’ it worked perfectly with no inconvenience or discomfort...and it’s discretely removable for post event refreshments.
    After all,..a retainer is not a Goalie’s mouth guard.
    If the retainer is the invasalign style then I agree with you. If it is the traditional wire kind, then I agree with the dentist.

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  • el gaitero
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    Originally posted by LloydB View Post

    My dentist's opinion is that a retainer wouldn't
    be helpful in this case. She's an expert, ...

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    Is she a piper?....has she tried it?...if not, sorry,..,respectfully, she’s flat out wrong.

    Early in this thread I mentioned I’ve used my post braces ‘retainer’ on and off as needed during some subsequent dental work involving a new front cap.
    Given the very thin and conforming nature of the ‘retainer’ it worked perfectly with no inconvenience or discomfort...and it’s discretely removable for post event refreshments.
    After all,..a retainer is not a Goalie’s mouth guard.

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  • LloydB
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    Cheers to all who contributed advice on this...
    I've combined a ReedWrangler with a borrowed
    Winstanlyuniversal blowpipe. Two practices
    so far, with improving confidence. The next
    challenge will be rebuilding my 'lip stamina'.

    My dentist's opinion is that a retainer wouldn't
    be helpful in this case. She's an expert, and
    we'll see how future practices work out.

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  • snomingo
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    I second the recommendation for an Invisalign retainer. I wear one to protect my bottom teeth while playing. It should serve the same purpose for your upper teeth. It's much thinner than any bite/night guard; when I tried using my thick upper night guard it interfered with keeping my lips sealed around the blowpipe.

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  • Raibeart
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    One of the things that can encourage the habit of biting too hard is a blowpipe that's not tied in properly. It should rest easily at your mouth. If it's continually trying to escape from you, you'll tend to bite to stop it getting away. If yours does this it would be beneficial to re-tie it in in such a way that it doesn't, or perhaps try one of those adjustable blowpipes that lets you alter the angle. Just a thought.....

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  • Raibeart
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    Originally posted by Pip01 View Post
    Ah, yes!! That... and the hands... and the fingers!!
    All known affectionately as... "The Beginner's Death Grip!"
    I guess that means I've been a beginner for going on 35 years now ;-)

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  • Pip01
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    Originally posted by Raibeart
    That and the recommendation to try to break the habit of tightly clenching (which I need to do as well!)
    Ah, yes!! That... and the hands... and the fingers!!
    All known affectionately as... "The Beginner's Death Grip!"

    And thanks to Kevin & Andrew... for correcting The Reed Wrangler's address.

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  • Raibeart
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    I know you said you wanted something over your teeth not the blowstick, but you might try thick soft surgical tubing on the mouthpiece. Not the vinyl stuff from the hardware store, real medical-grade (or at least food-safe) rubber tubing. I get mine from a brewing supply shop and I think it's only $1 or so a foot. Cheap enough to try and might do what you need. That and the recommendation to try to break the habit of tightly clenching (which I need to do as well!)

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  • LeoCDN
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    I use both... as an aging adult I just finished with my braces - the final set of trays is what you want... a dentist can 3D scan and produce a set (durable plastic). They’ll “snap” in place and are secure. 3 months ago I purchased 2 reed wranglers - one for my practice chanter and one for my pipes... a remarkable reduction in jaw tension. “Belt & Suspenders”... overkill- for sure. Protecting your crown... I’d get a set on Invisalign trays to start. Good luck!

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  • LloydB
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    Originally posted by el gaitero View Post
    A clear hard ‘plastic’ “night guard’ made by a local orthodontist will work well for years. I had braces in 2003...every several years I go back and get new upper and lower guards. They fit the aligned profile perfectly, are nearly invisible and are very thin and strong. A bit pricey..~$150.....but ‘’forever’


    Cheers; a 'night guard' might be a solution.

    Cheers also to others, I was probably unclear,
    but some sort of support over the teeth is needed,
    and a dental 'wire' support behind them isn't out
    of the question.

    Has anyone here used a 'night guard' or other similar
    guard while piping?


    And again, if something someone here tried and
    didn't work... knowing about that could be useful.

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  • Kevin Palm
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    The actual Web site is http://www.reedwrangler.net/

    Originally posted by Pip01 View Post
    Web site: TheReedWrangler.com.
    [Moderator note: Fixed link in original post.]
    Last edited by Andrew Lenz; 03-19-2021, 10:26 AM.

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  • Andrew Lenz
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    Second the recommendation for the Reed Wrangler. Love mine.

    Andrew

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  • el gaitero
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    A clear hard ‘plastic’ “night guard’ made by a local orthodontist will work well for years. I had braces in 2003...every several years I go back and get new upper and lower guards. They fit the aligned profile perfectly, are nearly invisible and are very thin and strong. A bit pricey..~$150.....but ‘’forever’

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  • Calum
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    The reed wrangler does sound like a useful thing to try.

    Not to teach old dogs new tricks, but it might be worth making the point that most people bite too hard when they play, and with a little bit of practice it should be possible to back off on bite pressure and just use the teeth to hold, rather than chew, which your dentist would probably be grateful for.

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