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    Is it ok to march on each half beat instead of the beat notes when playing in the competition arena?
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  • #2
    Short answer: no. Long answer: in the entry grades, if you otherwise did a very competent job a judge might overlook it, but you've given yourself a big hill to climb. I wouldn't recommend it, in short.
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    • #3
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      • #4
        Marching to the beat requires an understanding of where the beat is. I am not a judge, but if I were, I would deduct points, though not disqualify you. However, to march 4 beats to a 2/4, you must be playing dreadfully slow and I think that would also affect the rating of the performance.
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        • #5
          I'd agree with all of the above. Good advice there.

          if you can tap away at the half beats then you should easily be able to adapt to the whole beats.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by PRAIRIEPIPER View Post

            Is it ok to march on each half beat....?
            You didn’t state exactly why ,..but why would a band do this?
            As others chimed in it could be a show stopper for several reasons.

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            • #7
              You would have to play too slow and march too fast to make that work.

              Are there any YouTube videos of this being done?
              Last edited by pancelticpiper; 03-29-2021, 06:34 AM.
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              • #8
                I remember reading something about the 78th Frasers (not Halifax) having to march in to their medley one time back in the 80s either ridiculously slowly or on the half beats due to the waulking song they opened with.
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                • #9
                  1994:

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKYCSvY6fXA

                  The RSPBA, not being able to actually disqualify them for such flagrant displays of music-making, promptly enacted a rule saying that all intro tempos must exceed 60bpm. Rather daft, especially considering that the medley in question does (just).
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                  • #10
                    The OP specified "2/4 Marching" which I assume means marching to 2/4 Marches (in the normal meaning of "2/4 Marches" in Highland piping).
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                    • #11
                      I get the reason behind the question, I know when I'm learning a new 2/4 March I will sometimes tap out the half beats just to make sure it's lined up when practicing. I wouldn't do it in a competitive setting, but I get that desire.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Melodiethegreat View Post
                        I get the reason behind the question, I know when I'm learning a new 2/4 March I will sometimes tap out the half beats just to make sure it's lined up when practicing. I wouldn't do it in a competitive setting, but I get that desire.
                        For sure when you see a Grade One band at the Worlds about to start their MSR you'll see the Pipe Major sing and conduct the start of the March, and they're often stressing the "and"

                        one AND two AND

                        in other words four stressed beats per bar rather than two as the sheet music suggests.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CalumII View Post
                          1994:

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKYCSvY6fXA

                          The RSPBA, not being able to actually disqualify them for such flagrant displays of music-making, promptly enacted a rule saying that all intro tempos must exceed 60bpm. Rather daft, especially considering that the medley in question does (just).
                          Wow, I love that medley opening. Silly RSPBA.
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