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  • #16
    Check Amazon or Walmart
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    • #17
      I have seen those for sure thanks. They don’t look like they will put the phone in a spot and angle you actually see and use though.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by William McKenzie View Post
        I believe Dave Atherton has stopped and started production here and there, are they still being offered?
        He has been putting new sets up on Ebay from time to time, usually offering two or three sets at a time.

        I know a wooden flute maker who has got worn out from 30 years of maintaining a waiting list, taking orders and deposits and keeping track of all the details concerning each order, and all the time spend on the phone and emailing with constant questions. So now he makes the flutes he wants to make, and when each flute is done he puts it up for sale.

        I don't know what Atherton is doing, but his regular Ebay offerings appear to resemble that business model.

        proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; Son of the Revolution and Civil War; first European settlers on the Guyandotte

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Doug Walton View Post

          Your indignation aside, I care what accomplished pipers think, and their experiences and advice. It’s helped me in many ways over the years.
          Of course the experiences of the pros are important. I didn't interpret his response the same way...

          I find the experience of average pipers to be, perhaps, more valuable in certain areas - especially when dealing with a known. In this case, the known is Dave's pipes in the hands of top players. While it is great that a top-level player can win an award, I want to know if someone of MY abilities will notice a difference. Do the pipes only sound good if the set-up and blowing are perfect? If so, I'd be hesitant to make the plunge. If, as in this case, there is a tangible difference audibly (and aesthetically)... then, I will go down the rabbit hole and enjoy every moment! I have several sets. Most I play. Dave's I truly enjoy.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Jim Fogelman View Post
            That’s par for the course for almost everything marketed as “for pipers”

            If you were to buy a set of 3 corks for drone tops and a set of 5 corks for stocks from a piping shop, that’ll run you $8-10 USD. The EXACT same corks can be bought at a hardware store for about $2 USD. They just don’t come in a little cellophane baggy at a Highland games or through the mail.
            Oof, so true.

            Again, I want store owners and suppliers to earn an income. However, I also see such a steep entrance into our hobby for present and potential players from the shear difficulty of the music, the difficulty of the instrument, and the lengthy time involved to see results. Adding on top of this the large costs associated with every part and parcel of it from large to small is a detriment to everyone's success in my view.


            Originally posted by pancelticpiper View Post

            He has been putting new sets up on Ebay from time to time, usually offering two or three sets at a time.

            I know a wooden flute maker who has got worn out from 30 years of maintaining a waiting list, taking orders and deposits and keeping track of all the details concerning each order, and all the time spend on the phone and emailing with constant questions. So now he makes the flutes he wants to make, and when each flute is done he puts it up for sale.

            I don't know what Atherton is doing, but his regular Ebay offerings appear to resemble that business model.
            Interesting, I'm sure it will work. I can see maintaining a waitlist and trying to understand each customers' unique requests as either very interesting or very tedious. Like you're mentioning Richard, an instrument maker could instead make what they want to make and what drives their passion, let people purchase the result.
            Happy Piping

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            • #21
              I snagged a couple Atherton sets recently... I have a feeling that is his business model. They also get posted for sale on a FB group if you are really interested.

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              • #22
                It looks like he is still taking orders if you contact him directly. He also has some harsh words for greedy resellers, I remember seeing this notice on his website when I was shopping for a set:

                There's a growing trend of escalating prices for Atherton bagpipes on the secondary market. In some cases these instruments are being sold for more than 50% over what they would cost direct from the me-- with no warranty or any other value added. I want to be clear that I do not support the practice of price manipulation at the expense of the piping community. This isn't capitalism, it's just old fashioned greed. The exorbitant prices that are being asked for my instruments are putting them outside the reach of most pipers while at the same time they are giving a false impression that my current pricing, for an identical instrument, is the same. Perhaps fifty years from now when Atherton pipes are no longer being made, the inflated prices may be justified by collectors. It is also a mystery why a piper would spend a few thousand dollars more for a few year's old set of Atherton Pipes when they can contact me for a new set at a far lower cost. It is equally unclear what a used pipe dealer does to the pipes that warrants a $2,000 increase in price.

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                • #23
                  ^^^^ What (he/she) said!

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                  • #24
                    Hello,
                    as an update, I did order and recieve a set of atherton premier pipes. I played them in an online competition with the bcpa in grade 2 and had success with them.

                    https://youtu.be/iT86cX7u55Q

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                    • #25
                      You sound awesome man! Congrats!

                      What is your set up? I need to take some recordings of my Legacy set and my Premier Set.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Graineag View Post
                        John Angus Smith...played a set of Athertons...he kept getting negative comments from judges about his drone sound, so he switched to an old set of Hendersons.
                        That doesn't surprise me. They say "competition breeds conformity".

                        I've been to indoor solos where you can really hear the sounds of the competitor's drones and the Henderson tone becomes more or less the background against which other types of tone are heard. (Not to say that the pipes with the Henderson tone were all vintage Hendersons; they might be vintage Lawries, modern pipes aiming for that sound, etc.)

                        Personally I enjoy hearing when somebody plays a set with a distinctly different tone.

                        Many years ago when a friend made the jump to Open he got negative comments from the judges about his chanter tone. At the contests he was entering he was the only competitor not playing a Naill. Finally one judge wrote on his scoresheet "buy a Naill" and he did do. Immediately he went from last-place finishes to being in the middle of the pack.


                        proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; Son of the Revolution and Civil War; first European settlers on the Guyandotte

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                        • #27
                          Maybe that is why the Legacy style set seems IMO to have become more popular than the Premier/MD sets on the pro circuit? I noticed on the last batch of sets for sale, the Legacies sold quick quick.

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                          • #28
                            Hello,
                            thanks for the kind words. I was playing selbie reeds and a Ross cannister bag with an older round hole mccallum chanter. I actually love the style of the outside of the legacy mounts much better than the premier so I had he make me a set of premiers that look like legacies.

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                            • #29
                              Regarding Atherton pipes...are the bores ,lengths etc the same for Legacy and Premier sets ...only the exterior profile differs ?

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                              • #30
                                From what Dave has told me there are differences in all aspects of the three different pipe models he makes, both internally and externally. I would defer to others regarding what those difference may be, aside from saying thay he said the premiers are more forgiving tuning wise and that the mounts are different between the premier and the legacy models.

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